Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

The New Claydol? Discuss

I have to say, there's going to be something amazing coming in Clash of the Summit like a new engine or claydol replacement that we'll get in Nov. We're going to go a couple of BR's w/o an engine for non-SP decks probably, we'll be fine.
 
Well.. Depending on when LL is released, I think we're gonna see some interesting magnezone variants for fall BR's and early CC's, they might even fare quite well. But in the end, I think something stage 1, with a good T/S/S Engine, will run away with the best results. (and ofc luxchomp, but that's obvious)
 
The only viable draw engines that come to mind would be SV Dodrio and HGSS Noctowl.
Both have the same Poke Power that allows you to draw an extra card per turn.
 
Well first of all, a stage 2 is not the worst thing that can be run as a tech, even more so if it's getting you card advantage once it's setup, and second of all, it wouldn't be so bad to run regice alongside magnezone either. Yes I understand that's no stage 1 pokemon, but it's also a lot better than nothing. Plenty of decks do run stage 2 techs though right? There is spiritomb as well, huh? It shuts down trainers from sp decks. Doesn't seem so bad. I mean if you focus on getting magnezone, and regice out, you'll have enough draw power to get going from there. Like look at this scenario

You start with spritomb, and go second.

T1 collector getting magnemite, regice, and your attacker, evolve magnemite
T2 Evolve into magnezone, tada, you have claydol, use cosmic power, get what a rare candy and the pokemon to evolve your main attacker? If not you'll probably get a supporter to use next turn that will search out that pokemon you need, and you can still use spiritombs attack, meaning you wouldn't have even needed the rare candy.

And this was all from 3 cards in hand, two of which you should be running 4 of, the other is easily searchable.Magnezone isn't nearly as bad as people are making it out to be.

Also, why aren't people mentioning Hunter alongside Uxie? That's where the real engine is. And it'll more than likely be coming out before cities. But there's also the problem mentioned with magnezone's power, it'll still want you to draw until you have 7, no more. Once again Regice pops to mind.
 
waynegg said:
I doubt there will be a new Claydol honestly. Not for another 11 years anyhow. Nothing in the game has ever been both as universal and as effective as Claydol, so it would be moot to bank on a new Plug-In anytime soon. I would suggest going in a different direction- back to Trainer/Supporter Engines...
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pidgeot is probably both more effective and was about as universal
 
Pokemon Trainer Char said:
Agreed.

I like your idea with Regice. Only problem is that even if it does free up the hand you end up dropping cards you might need later on into your discard pile.
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That's what I was thinking about, but with testing we could see what could be discarded, it might prompt a higher luxury ball count or a higher NM/palmers count. I'm going to practice what I preach though, and test out this engine to see how well it does. In either case of using uxie or magnezone, it looks like regice would be a viable option.
 
Do we really need Claydol anymore?

I mean, it will make our deck less consistent and with less draw power, but then everyone will have that.
 
Barkjon said:
Do we really need Claydol anymore?

I mean, it will make our deck less consistent and with less draw power, but then everyone will have that.
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Except for SP, who's deck barely changes, and is currently dominating the format.
 
Ye.. except luxchomp will remain almost unaffected, and therefor stay as, and maybe even more, dominant the next season.

^Damn.. you were faster :(
 
Sabett said:
That's what I was thinking about, but with testing we could see what could be discarded, it might prompt a higher luxury ball count or a higher NM/palmers count. I'm going to practice what I preach though, and test out this engine to see how well it does. In either case of using uxie or magnezone, it looks like regice would be a viable option.
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In theory (since none of this can be proven until playtested) I think the Night Maintenance count would probably have to go up, but this if only you discard pokemon and energies. Maybe if you drop supporters into the discard pile, VS Seeker will become a good tech.

Barkjon said:
DOWN WITH SPs!
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Noooooo!:tongue:
 
Dusknoir SF anyone??? Might need to pack some more Palmer's of Night Maintenance if you do... But that would take up to much space then.

Or we could just not worry about it and see what happens.
 
Ninjask88 said:
Dusknoir SF anyone??? Might need to pack some more Palmer's of Night Maintenance if you do... But that would take up to much space then.

Or we could just not worry about it and see what happens.
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Or we could use the cards we have, as there is a clear reason as to why they've created the format this large. You prove your own point wrong btw, dusknoir is a great idea.
 
Sabett said:
Or we could use the cards we have, as there is a clear reason as to why they've created the format this large. You prove your own point wrong btw, dusknoir is a great idea.
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Meh I am kindahave mixed feelings about it. I am kinda tempted to not use a pokemon as a draw engine and see what I can come up with.
 
Ninjask88 said:
Meh I am kindahave mixed feelings about it. I am kinda tempted to not use a pokemon as a draw engine and see what I can come up with.
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I'm sure you weren't saying that when you were using claydol. I don't understand how not using a pokemon for a draw engine would be better than if you did. You can still use supporters, the only difference would be that you're not drawing as many cards.
 
Sabett said:
I'm sure you weren't saying that when you were using claydol. I don't understand how not using a pokemon for a draw engine would be better than if you did. You can still use supporters, the only difference would be that you're not drawing as many cards.
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I still do not like to use Claydol (lets not get onto that topic). All I am saying is that maybe we are not suppose to rely on Poke-Powers to draw cards and TPCi is trying to make us realize that. That is all that I am saying. But, we will just have to wait and see what happens.
I do agree that the draw power helps but i just like finding different ways of doing things, and the new format will just be a time for me to experiment.

As of now, it looks like Uxie Level X and Dusknoir Sf will be the solution to ourno Claydol crisis.
 
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