PokemonPow
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Hey I really wonder, is it worth to have a membership at 6P UG? Is there some of you that have it and can tell me if it is? Please, writers of UG, don't post 
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Charizard3712
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Sure its worth showing that people who have accounts don't have any creativity and are too lazy to create their own decks. If you feel this way then PAY people to make decks for you.
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Redados1
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After I became one of the top 10 writers of the month on 6P, I received a free UG subscription for a month. My first response was that it definitely wasn't worth paying for. But I kept reading and the articles interested me. Then, at Regionals I made my first top cut after playing the game for over 2 and a half years and attending every tournament series since I started. I made Top 16, then Top 8, then Top 4. And I have to attribute this to Underground.
Now that my membership has expired and I can't afford to renew it, I don't know what will happen. But I suspect that those who say bad things about Underground haven't tried it. It's not all about netdecking (not every list is top notch and you can see some theorymon), but it really is like a private lesson. You have to view it in that way to gain from it. And the players that succeed most from it most likely don't netdeck. Where I copied lists word for word from UG was for good stock lists to test against that I knew were credible, as opposed to looking in a deck help forum.
That is all.
Now that my membership has expired and I can't afford to renew it, I don't know what will happen. But I suspect that those who say bad things about Underground haven't tried it. It's not all about netdecking (not every list is top notch and you can see some theorymon), but it really is like a private lesson. You have to view it in that way to gain from it. And the players that succeed most from it most likely don't netdeck. Where I copied lists word for word from UG was for good stock lists to test against that I knew were credible, as opposed to looking in a deck help forum.
That is all.
baby mario
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If people are using it like that, then they definitely aren't getting their money's worth.
(I've never been a member of UG and I'm pretty neutral on it. Some people seem to benefit, others not so much)
Speaking as a moderator of SixPrizes, but not a paid author of any sort, my answer is "It depends"
"Private Lessons" is a good way to put it. Basically, it's actually two separate "products" you're getting.
First, you get a special members-only area of the forums where the authors/players are directly responding to your questions. So, for example, I ask Josh (Jwittz) "Hey man, about that list from your most recent article, how would you tech it for a Donphan-Heavier Metagame?" and he'll post, responding with tech ideas, etc.
Secondly, of course, are the articles themselves. Each article does contian deck lists, yes, but if all you do is netdeck those, you've denied yourself the main focal point. Each list comes with a LOT of explanation. But you're welcome to see that for yourself. It's an article from last season, but "The Bible on Luxchomp" by Jwittz is free to view in its entirety, so that you can see what kind of quality you can expect.
However, UG is not for the casual player, and it's certainly not for those that think they can buy their way to winning. Simply seeing the lists is not enough, you still need the practice, etc, that UG provides you with.
The "Bonus" of sorts to UG is that you get the opportunity to playtest online with the big name players, and even your fellow UG members are much more focused than random opponents online. You'll definitely see your wins be closer, and your losses be closer still.
If you've got any specific questions, feel free to post, or shoot me a PM.
"Private Lessons" is a good way to put it. Basically, it's actually two separate "products" you're getting.
First, you get a special members-only area of the forums where the authors/players are directly responding to your questions. So, for example, I ask Josh (Jwittz) "Hey man, about that list from your most recent article, how would you tech it for a Donphan-Heavier Metagame?" and he'll post, responding with tech ideas, etc.
Secondly, of course, are the articles themselves. Each article does contian deck lists, yes, but if all you do is netdeck those, you've denied yourself the main focal point. Each list comes with a LOT of explanation. But you're welcome to see that for yourself. It's an article from last season, but "The Bible on Luxchomp" by Jwittz is free to view in its entirety, so that you can see what kind of quality you can expect.
However, UG is not for the casual player, and it's certainly not for those that think they can buy their way to winning. Simply seeing the lists is not enough, you still need the practice, etc, that UG provides you with.
The "Bonus" of sorts to UG is that you get the opportunity to playtest online with the big name players, and even your fellow UG members are much more focused than random opponents online. You'll definitely see your wins be closer, and your losses be closer still.
If you've got any specific questions, feel free to post, or shoot me a PM.
CFOURCOLTSFAN
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I'd say yes, i know it's helped me. I basically was(and still am tbh) a scrub, but then by reading a ton of the articles and playing around w/ some ideas i won Ft. Wayne Regionals...so I'd say it helped a bit(although to be fair i got my UG through writing which i enjoy doing)
nnaann
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With Premium Content, you have three options, and I think that the best choice depends on what you're specifically looking for.
If you're completely behind the idea of Premium Content and are happy to pay a high price for it, the SixPrizes Underground is your best bet. People's opinions vary on how helpful the articles are, but they are a huge help to any new players in particular, and you have a huge amount of content with 8+ articles coming out a month.
ProPokemon also sells articles, but individually. Most of the authors write for the Sixprizes Underground as well, and so the quality of the content is pretty much the same. It works out a lot cheaper than paying $15 a month (about $7.50 per 3 months), but you're only getting up to 3 articles per set release.
You can also choose to go it alone, and opt to just test decks yourself, using lists that you feel most comfortable with.
I personally think that if you're confident in your own ability, and can win tournaments without the use of outside help, you don't really need it. If not, it will improve you as a player and give you a much better shot of being more successful in tournaments. It can be pretty pricey, but if you're in a position where you're able to afford it, it's worth at least a try. Both SixPrizes and ProPokemon release free teasers from each of the articles as well, so you could always read those to get a general idea of what they're about.
If you're completely behind the idea of Premium Content and are happy to pay a high price for it, the SixPrizes Underground is your best bet. People's opinions vary on how helpful the articles are, but they are a huge help to any new players in particular, and you have a huge amount of content with 8+ articles coming out a month.
ProPokemon also sells articles, but individually. Most of the authors write for the Sixprizes Underground as well, and so the quality of the content is pretty much the same. It works out a lot cheaper than paying $15 a month (about $7.50 per 3 months), but you're only getting up to 3 articles per set release.
You can also choose to go it alone, and opt to just test decks yourself, using lists that you feel most comfortable with.
I personally think that if you're confident in your own ability, and can win tournaments without the use of outside help, you don't really need it. If not, it will improve you as a player and give you a much better shot of being more successful in tournaments. It can be pretty pricey, but if you're in a position where you're able to afford it, it's worth at least a try. Both SixPrizes and ProPokemon release free teasers from each of the articles as well, so you could always read those to get a general idea of what they're about.
ApachePrime
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A friend gave us his username and password, and I don't think any of us bothered to login more than once. The articles are decent, but nothing you can't find elsewhere for free or come to on your own through playtesting.
ApachePrime
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To be honest, I already had issues with using another person's account, but I wasn't going to spend money unless I knew it was worth it. The account is long since dead as the 2 or 3 people that took a look found nothing worth the money.
I think it was disrespectful of me to even say I used another person's account, I can't imagine how disrespectful it would be to post a username and password to a paid website.
I think it was disrespectful of me to even say I used another person's account, I can't imagine how disrespectful it would be to post a username and password to a paid website.
Yes, I find tons of useful information as well as getting view points from top players in the game. I've never used it as "wow I love fulops list I'm going to net deck it" but rather I like to see the different ideas and viewpoints that the writers come up with. Fulop was pushing a very heavy Twins Magneboar build before Worlds and look what ended up winning it. Like Capd said you also get alot of 1-1 deck building help as well, I return all emails I receive and all the writers do as well.
plaidlesspez
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If you play a sport and you want to get better faster, it's a good idea to take lessons. I took tennis lessons the first 6 years I started playing, and they helped me tremendously. I haven't taken lessons in a few years, but I'm looking to take them again to make sure I'm on track with my form and strategy.
If you play an instrument and want to get better faster, it's a good idea to take lessons. I took saxophone lessons all throughout middle and high school, and they helped a ton. I'm at the point where I can give myself lessons and play for fun, but if I wanted to get really good, I'd go take lessons from a professional.
What taking lessons does is 1. give you proper instruction and 2. force you to be committed to whatever you're doing. That's what Underground helps do. We help keep you up to date with the latest lists/metagame development, and the fact that you're paying a few bucks a month makes you more committed than you'd normally be.
I know I'd personally rather pay for any lessons than receive them free, as I'd take them a lot more seriously and I'd improve quicker. Pros at everything take lessons. Even Roger Federer (who might be the best tennis player ever) pays for a coach! Think about that.
And I'm not a UG writer, so I hope you don't mind me posting.
If you play an instrument and want to get better faster, it's a good idea to take lessons. I took saxophone lessons all throughout middle and high school, and they helped a ton. I'm at the point where I can give myself lessons and play for fun, but if I wanted to get really good, I'd go take lessons from a professional.
What taking lessons does is 1. give you proper instruction and 2. force you to be committed to whatever you're doing. That's what Underground helps do. We help keep you up to date with the latest lists/metagame development, and the fact that you're paying a few bucks a month makes you more committed than you'd normally be.
I know I'd personally rather pay for any lessons than receive them free, as I'd take them a lot more seriously and I'd improve quicker. Pros at everything take lessons. Even Roger Federer (who might be the best tennis player ever) pays for a coach! Think about that.
And I'm not a UG writer, so I hope you don't mind me posting.
Your as good as the people you play test with and the list you test against. Why are Alex and Jason two of the top players in the world? Do you think it's just random they test together? The amount of people who playtest wrong, and think certain match ups are better than they are just astounds me.