Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

How exactly does one go about getting a quad or Quint?

P_A

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With all the effort that one goes through to get Championship battle ready, I'm assuming that having as good a foundation in your team as possible is pretty much a given. Can you give a detailed explanation on how to get a team with the best IV's and EV's as possible with Pokemon X and Y? Thanks.
 
This Gen is weird. Each Pokemon you get from the FS will have 2 31 Ivs in 2 random stats guaranteed. Of cource you can find better pokemon. A friend of mind caught a Ditto with 4 31s, which I breed from to get my Talonflame. You have to go into breeding in this Gen without everything you knew for a while. Many past Pokemon are bad because they lack the needed egg moves and moves tutored from the last gen.

What you want to do is find out what you want on your team IF you plan on playing in official tournaments. If you can transfer your trained Pokemon from the last game and have no interest in official tournaments, then just breed the new Pokemon from XY. If you want to play in official tournaments, then think about what Pokemon you want. So far, the most overpowered Mega Pokemon are Mawile, Gengar and Kangaskang. If you want a Mega, go with one of those. Another really good Pokemon choice is Goodra who has a total of 600 based stats. It special defense base state is 150 and with a calm nature with 252 EVs, it will push 438 in that stat. Its special attack base stat is 110. its a very good tank and contends for the Dragonite slot.

A really powerful sweeper is Aegislash. Depending on its form, it will either have base 150 in attack and special attack or defense and special defense. Its other base stats are 50. If you can get a good swords dance in, it can sweep with Shadow Sneak. It is also a really good user of the item Weakness Policy, which increases it attack and special attack 2 stages if hit with a super effective move.

Each Pokemon needs to have a role to play. You need a handful of sweeper, and walls. You also need to find out what format you're playing in. Singles, doubles, etc. Once you find out what you want on your team, trade with people who have the Pokemon you are looking for or dittos so you can breed from them or ask them to do it for you.
 
@ P_A

You mean like a "bracket" guide?

Like:

mother A with father A = baby A

baby A with baby B breed from ditto mom and father C

that "bracket"?
 
1) Catch a lot of dittos.
2) mark all the perfect stats on dittos
3) grab a ditto and poke u want to breed
4) put them in the daycare
5) get and hatch eggs
6) check eggs stats and mark them
7) replace parent with a baby who has better stats.
Repeat steps 5-7 till the judge says you have the 5 right stat
 
Thank you for your post vaporeon. It was actually very helpful, even though it didn't fully answer my question.

Benzo, I wasn't expecting a blow by blow description of what to do, nor do I really know what you mean by a "bracket guide", since I've never tried this before. I just wanted to have an outline of the steps needed, as was posted by Bigbowlr. However, from what I've read from other threads, there are some items you can have your pokemon hold when breeding to maximize certain things. Can you add to Bigbowlr's comment to help people get the best individual pokemon for their teams as possible? If so, then this will help raise the general competitive level of those of us here who frequent the gym.

Edit: Benzo, here's a quote from you that details more of what I'd like to see:

"Breed with SZ Pokémon, use the Destiny Knot and Power Bracelets when breeding. Toss in the Everstone. < definitely would help if you could explain how those help in the breeding process.

Find hordes to boost the EV's obtained when EV training.

Use Pokerus (it is out there, finding a person who has it and will trade a Pokie with it is rather easy) < Already got that, so training the pokes up will be easier, but has nothing to do with the breeding process right?

You only need to raise a Pokémon to level 50- if you EV it at level 1 using all the newer methods and techs- you will have a battle worthy Pokémon in less time you think.

.....

I should write up an article on how to bust out a tourney worthy Pokémon in no time with all the new mechs and techs in the game............."

< Here's your chance! You don't have to go to all the trouble to post everything here in this thread - point form will do. One thing you might mention is about ways to hatch pokemon faster. I know using O-powers will help, but like in other games aren't there pokemon that you can have in your team that reduce the amount of steps you need to hatch eggs? Wasn't one of the pokemon Larvesta or Volcarona? My memory is bad.
 
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I outlined the basics of chain breeding starting with nothing but Safari Pokemon in another thread, perhaps it'll help you some in getting Quad/Quint IV Pokemon:

So for example, assuming you're starting out with nothing but 2 IV safari parents (though you can catch a lot and some will probably come out with 3 IVs) and you want a physical sweeper and the hidden ability for it. I would grab 2 with different IVs (say male with HP/Atk and female with SpD/Spe) and breed them, have one hold the destiny knot and the other hold a power item (optionally if you have a parent with the right nature you can start everstone now to save it unless you can re-introduce it later, which is what ditto is good for). Your goal is to get 3 IV parents from there, say a male with HP/Atk/Spe and a female with Hp/SpD/Spe. You'll then want to switch it up and swap out one of the parents for one with Def, have it hold the power item for def (belt I think), the other hold destiny knot, and breed them until you can get a 3-4 IV parent; for this example, you leave in the male and introduced a different female with HP/Def, your goal now is to get a male with HP/Atk/Def and ideally Spe if you can.

But regardless, you will now want to take that new male parent once you get it (HP/Atk/Def) and have it hold destiny knot, then breed it with the original female you had (HP/SpD/Spe) with everstone and what you're aiming for now (since your 5 IVs are accounted for) is a progressing chain until you end up with 4 or 5 IV parents; say your next batch of eggs gives you a new male with HP/Atk/SpD/Spe, you don't want to replace your current male as you'll lose Def. However if you get a male with HP/Atk/Def/Spe, then you swap it in over your current male as it now has 1 additional IV Destiny Knot will check against. Same for the female, you'd reject say a HP/Atk/Def/Spe one since the male has no SpD, but you would keep a HP/Def/SpD/Spe (you would also reject any without the hidden ability as you MUST have it, otherwise it you swap it for a female without it, then you'll be stuck with just whatever normal ones it has). But really from here, it's just breeding enough so you'll replace your 3 IV parents with 4 IV parents, and from there should be pretty quick to get that 5 IV egg with the IVs you want passed down. Of course, you could get really lucky at the 3 IV stage and end up with the egg you want, but your odds increase as you replace your 3 IV parents with 4 IV parents.

This is probably why it helps to trade or otherwise get a "spitback" parent if you can, ie a rejected one from someone because it doesn't have the right IVs they want. But since these are 3-5 IV parents (ideally male in the egg group you want), it cuts down on the time you need to expend breeding quite a bit. Male parents (unless you're going for egg moves) in this sense are more valuable since species is determined by the female, so if you have a 4-5 IV male parent, you can breed with anything in its egg group while only needing to get the right female and ability (nature also I suppose if the male one isn't one you want).

Also worth noting is any "true" baby Pokemon you can catch in the wild (for example Riolu on Rt 22) will have three 31 IVs, so once you evolve them, they make good breeding partners in that egg group.

To answer your other question, Flame Body is the ability you're thinking of for faster egg hatching. Volcarona was great last gen since it had Flame Body and could learn Fly (so you only needed 1 Pokemon in your team to hatch eggs fast and get to the IV checker from wherever you happen to be at), but Fletchinder/Talonflame is better this generation since it has Flame Body, can learn Fly, and you don't have to level it to 65 to evolve it.
 
What do you mean by "true" baby. Does Eevee count for that as well because I'd love to catch some Eevees like that.
 
What do you mean by "true" baby. Does Eevee count for that as well because I'd love to catch some Eevees like that.

From what I've gathered, it refers to "baby" Pokemon that cannot breed. So it would be things like your Riolus, Azurills, Smoochum, etc, but not normal Basic Pokemon like Eevee. Only some of them can be found in the wild or through horde encounters, the three I've listed are wild in XY, but never bothered checking for more.
 
On breeding for quint's- it took me 7 eggs to get a quint using FS Pokies. Bracket breeding with the Destiny Knot and a power item makes for quick and easy pokies.
 
From what I've gathered, it refers to "baby" Pokemon that cannot breed. So it would be things like your Riolus, Azurills, Smoochum, etc, but not normal Basic Pokemon like Eevee. Only some of them can be found in the wild or through horde encounters, the three I've listed are wild in XY, but never bothered checking for more.

Thats good to know. I can pass that to my friend who is a avid Lucario fan.

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On breeding for quint's- it took me 7 eggs to get a quint using FS Pokies. Bracket breeding with the Destiny Knot and a power item makes for quick and easy pokies.

I was having issues passing the IVs to my Talonflame. I managed to get a quad female with Gale Wings. I have a perfect male Pidgeot on my black 2 that I'll use to get a quint or flawless Talonflame with.
 
1) Catch a lot of dittos.
2) mark all the perfect stats on dittos
3) grab a ditto and poke u want to breed
4) put them in the daycare
5) get and hatch eggs
6) check eggs stats and mark them
7) replace parent with a baby who has better stats.
Repeat steps 5-7 till the judge says you have the 5 right stat

How do you "Mark" them?

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How do you "Mark" them?

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On a pokemon's page, there are 6 symbols. You turn them on for the stats. Click a pokemon and select "mark" then it brings up the symbols. For example, if a poke has a 31 in HP, defense and speed, you'll click the first one, the third on and the sixth one. So when people see the pokemon, if you have the IVs marked, they will know where the 31s are.
 
Are you sure? I could have sworn that those symbols had to do with what generation of Pokemon it is. For example, for this season you can only use Pokemon from x and y which is the blue Pentagon.

I'll double check tonight and also look for the marking option. Thank you!
 
Are you sure? I could have sworn that those symbols had to do with what generation of Pokemon it is. For example, for this season you can only use Pokemon from x and y which is the blue Pentagon.

I'll double check tonight and also look for the marking option. Thank you!

That's a different symbol. When you open up the PC and view the summary page, you can assign symbols from there to be whatever you want.
 
I think from here on out- each new version including X/Y will have a symbol of it's own like the blue pentagon.
This is a way to "track/trace" Pokémon from each game, showing that the Pokémon's history is more legit in it's origin.
Keep in mind I said "think"--

I wonder if there will be a symbol for transferred in from B/W/BW2 via the bank/transfer system........ perhaps not though since a Region symbol (X/Y blue pentagon as the example here) has not been created for past Regions. (Unless GameFreak did implement a Region one for transferred in from Unova)
 
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