Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

absol (secret wonders)

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logan1975

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well, the first attack says that you discard a card from your oponent hand and if you discarded a trainer, supporter or stadium, you get to discard another card...my question is....what if you discarded another trainer, .... or.... do you get to discard another one, in some elliptical way?
 
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no, because it doesn't say to keep apllying this effect until you pick an energy/pokemon/tool. Otherwise you could discard your opponents entire hand
 
Yeah, if you could actually keep discarding cards with no limit, this little guy would be even MORE broken :nonono:.
 
That would be almost ban-worthy, if not format-warping. Imagine decks going half and half on pokemon and energy just to avoid getting wrecked by absol. And even then they're discarding a card a turn!
 
SPARTA said:
You discard two max. A tool is a trainer BTW.
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So are Supporters and Stadiums but they are specifically called out in Baleful Wind. So that does raise the question of whether a Tool on the first discard allows for a second. Has anyone asked for a ruling on this before? I searched, but didn't see anything.

Yes, a Tool is a trainer but if you allow "Trainer" to imply any of the types of trainer cards, then (1) how would text refer specifically to a pure Trainer (e.g., Poke Ball) and (2) why are Stadiums and Supporters called out specifically in Baleful Wind?

To me, it seems more likely that Trainer actually refers to a pure Trainer card (i.e., not a Supporter or Stadium or Tool). Which would mean that discarding a Tool card on your first pull would not allow for a second discard.

Can anyone clarify, please?

EDIT: BTW, the original question of this thread appears to have been answered in this "Ask the Masters" thread. I'm still left wondering if my interpretation of Baleful Wind is correct or not, though.

Thomas Dorris
 
Since DP, Trainers cards are now classified into 3 types :
- Stadium
- Supporters
- Trainers

The first 2 are obvious, and the third contains all that is not a Stadium or a Supporter. Tools count now as Trainers.
 
MathAenya said:
The first 2 are obvious, and the third contains all that is not a Stadium or a Supporter. Tools count now as Trainers.
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Excellent. Thanks. Now that you mention this, I see the exact statement in the Compendium trainers section. Not sure how I missed that the first time. Maybe because it was in the trainers section and not specifically related to Baleful Winds. I need to broaden my searches next time. :)

Thomas Dorris
 
Post Diamond & Pearl we have 5 different types of card

1-Pokemon
2-Energy
3-Stadium cards
4-Supporters
5-Trainers

They are all now distinct. Any card printed in DP, MT, SW knows that there are five distinct types. Any card printed in DP, MT, SW knows that a Supporter is not a Trainer.

Older cards from the EX series don't know this and view Supporters, Stadiums, and Trainers as the same type of card. So the SW Absol knows that it has to say Supporter Stadium and Trainer if it wants to have an effect the same as an EX series Absol that would just refer to all three under the title Trainer..
 
Having not played at any tourneys with DP-on cards in format, might I ask what deck sheets are like now? Are there still 3 sections or 5?
 
Magic_Umbreon said:
Having not played at any tourneys with DP-on cards in format, might I ask what deck sheets are like now? Are there still 3 sections or 5?
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I (well, my son) hasn't played any DP-on tournaments yet either. Which I guess is part of the reason why I was clueless about the Trainer re-naming thing.

As for deck sheets, you can see the new version(s) in the Editable decklist files thread. I'll ruin the suspense, though...there's not much different.

Thomas Dorris
 
still only 3 ( least what i have seen) i think that they will be changed when the format is DP-on only changing them now would mess thnigs up as some stadiums are still trainers. and for the purpose of a deck list IMO its irrelavant
 
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