It's that time again: Dark Explorers Print Run Time!
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treyh37
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LHS
SC 35 80 1 21 27 / 93 / 49 / 12 98 62
VE 1 50 39 7 86 / 68 / 56 / 59 101 25
DA 27 64 45 81 33 / 31 / 63 / 4 93 32
EX 27 64 45 81 33 / 37 / 53 / 100 25 8
SC 58 67 41 40 55 / 7 / 74 / 102 94 61
VE 40 55 9 78 44 / 59 / 29 / 24 18 99
DA 31 41 33 14 75 / 83 / 72 / 92 87 96
EX 44 35 80 1 21 / 94 / 36 / 65 100 85
SC 44 35 80 1 21 / 88 / 47 / 92 73 96
VE 7 31 20 39 23 / 6 / 71 / 32 97 37
DA 42 58 10 67 83 / 10 / 11 / 95 37 8
EX 35 69 64 15 23 / 67 / 108 / 76 60 34
SC 83 40 55 9 78 / 100 / 57 / 59 51 18
VE 83 40 55 9 78 / 65 / 68 / 2 98 28
DA 84 75 70 15 50 / 72 / 3 / 94 16 59
EX 1 50 39 7 86 / 33 / 43 / 61 93 62
SC 78 84 44 9 27 / 64 / 6 / 97 46 91
VE 86 42 58 10 67 / 92 / 22 / 85 101 25
RHS
DA 86 42 58 10 67 / 17 / 48 / 24 91 99
EX 27 64 45 81 33 / 86 / 30 / 4 93 32
SC 31 41 33 14 75 / 1 / 13 / 51 95 12
VE 7 40 80 55 20 / 75 / 88 / 102 60 101
DA 75 1 50 39 7 / 77 / 49 / 24 18 99
EX 75 1 50 39 7 / 96 / 89 / 100 62 102
SC 44 35 80 1 21 / 85 / 19 / 94 2 85
VE 35 69 64 15 23 / 35 / 74 / 92 73 96
DA 70 39 21 58 67 / 102 / 66 / 37 8 87
EX 23 31 41 33 14 / 81 / 52 / 8 98 28
SC 23 31 41 33 14 / 25 / 5 / 76 60 34
VE 83 40 55 9 78 / 95 / 17 / 18 32 98
DA 78 84 44 9 27 / 49 / 79 / 95 12 65
EX 45 75 81 50 10 / 45 / 56 / 94 16 59
SC 27 35 69 64 15 / 101 / 82 / 97 61 51
VE 27 35 69 64 15 / 20 / 36 / 91 97 46
DA 86 42 58 10 67 / 3 / 11 / 85 101 25
EX 7 40 80 55 20 / 98 / 77 / 91 93 60
as you can see from the bold text i had several packs right next to each other with the exact same commons, and i see several spread out with the same commons as well.
SC 35 80 1 21 27 / 93 / 49 / 12 98 62
VE 1 50 39 7 86 / 68 / 56 / 59 101 25
DA 27 64 45 81 33 / 31 / 63 / 4 93 32
EX 27 64 45 81 33 / 37 / 53 / 100 25 8
SC 58 67 41 40 55 / 7 / 74 / 102 94 61
VE 40 55 9 78 44 / 59 / 29 / 24 18 99
DA 31 41 33 14 75 / 83 / 72 / 92 87 96
EX 44 35 80 1 21 / 94 / 36 / 65 100 85
SC 44 35 80 1 21 / 88 / 47 / 92 73 96
VE 7 31 20 39 23 / 6 / 71 / 32 97 37
DA 42 58 10 67 83 / 10 / 11 / 95 37 8
EX 35 69 64 15 23 / 67 / 108 / 76 60 34
SC 83 40 55 9 78 / 100 / 57 / 59 51 18
VE 83 40 55 9 78 / 65 / 68 / 2 98 28
DA 84 75 70 15 50 / 72 / 3 / 94 16 59
EX 1 50 39 7 86 / 33 / 43 / 61 93 62
SC 78 84 44 9 27 / 64 / 6 / 97 46 91
VE 86 42 58 10 67 / 92 / 22 / 85 101 25
RHS
DA 86 42 58 10 67 / 17 / 48 / 24 91 99
EX 27 64 45 81 33 / 86 / 30 / 4 93 32
SC 31 41 33 14 75 / 1 / 13 / 51 95 12
VE 7 40 80 55 20 / 75 / 88 / 102 60 101
DA 75 1 50 39 7 / 77 / 49 / 24 18 99
EX 75 1 50 39 7 / 96 / 89 / 100 62 102
SC 44 35 80 1 21 / 85 / 19 / 94 2 85
VE 35 69 64 15 23 / 35 / 74 / 92 73 96
DA 70 39 21 58 67 / 102 / 66 / 37 8 87
EX 23 31 41 33 14 / 81 / 52 / 8 98 28
SC 23 31 41 33 14 / 25 / 5 / 76 60 34
VE 83 40 55 9 78 / 95 / 17 / 18 32 98
DA 78 84 44 9 27 / 49 / 79 / 95 12 65
EX 45 75 81 50 10 / 45 / 56 / 94 16 59
SC 27 35 69 64 15 / 101 / 82 / 97 61 51
VE 27 35 69 64 15 / 20 / 36 / 91 97 46
DA 86 42 58 10 67 / 3 / 11 / 85 101 25
EX 7 40 80 55 20 / 98 / 77 / 91 93 60
as you can see from the bold text i had several packs right next to each other with the exact same commons, and i see several spread out with the same commons as well.
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Nick15
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bullados & cabd: Cool! I look forward to seeing what's in them!
treyh37: Thanks for the list! It is kinda weird to see exact commons in exact order like that. There's actually several others too, although they're not necessairly next to one another, pack wise:
* 78 84 44 9 27
* 7 40 80 55 20
* 86 42 58 10 67
* 1 50 39 7 86
* 31 41 33 14 75
But this is odd in general because rarely do I see packs overlap with one another in a single box, let alone sync up EXACTLY, AND multiple times over multiple packs. Because of this, I'm gonna pay extra attention when I work on the Common print run to see where the commons in your box appear in.
BTW, did you catch what the printed number of your box is (check on the inside of the main "lid")?
....
I bought ten more blisters at Target—five Venusaur and five Excadrill—and managed to pull THREE Entei EXs (two from Excadrill packs, one from Venusaur). This, I think, is really suspicious... partially because Excadrill also seems to be a money pack. But, again, maybe it was just some supreme coincidence and/or a perfect, textbook case of the selective data fallacy. Either way though, I sure the hell am not complaining over getting THREE Entei EXs.
Here's my pack data BTW:
DE EX.GR 42 35 10 69 27 / 28 13 / 62 98 12
DE EX.DR 81 45 64 27 21 / 64 13 / 99 4 92
DE EX.FI 9 81 69 86 14 / 14 48 / 16 94 25
DE EX.GR 86 7 39 50 1 / 4 19 / 18 73 99
DE EX.LI 64 83 31 42 35 / 9 53 / 100 16 93
DE VE.DR 21 1 80 35 44 / 68 79 / 51 102 62
DE VE.DR 23 64 42 35 80 / 10 17 / 91 76 18
DE VE.LI 64 69 35 27 9 / 86 17 / 24 101 60
DE VE.DR 31 23 15 64 69 / 33 68 / 32 18 51
DE VE.GR 39 21 50 84 75 / 3 13 / 95 28 98
....
At this point I think we've got enough data for me to start work on the Common Print Run list! Likewise, there may be enough data to begin calculating rarity ratios based on Pokémon pack depiction, as well as overall rarity ratio (like, chances of getting non-holo rare, holo rare, EX rare, Full Art EX rare, mega ultra rare).
THANK everyone for your efforts! YOU make this all possible!! (^_^)
treyh37: Thanks for the list! It is kinda weird to see exact commons in exact order like that. There's actually several others too, although they're not necessairly next to one another, pack wise:
* 78 84 44 9 27
* 7 40 80 55 20
* 86 42 58 10 67
* 1 50 39 7 86
* 31 41 33 14 75
But this is odd in general because rarely do I see packs overlap with one another in a single box, let alone sync up EXACTLY, AND multiple times over multiple packs. Because of this, I'm gonna pay extra attention when I work on the Common print run to see where the commons in your box appear in.
BTW, did you catch what the printed number of your box is (check on the inside of the main "lid")?
....
I bought ten more blisters at Target—five Venusaur and five Excadrill—and managed to pull THREE Entei EXs (two from Excadrill packs, one from Venusaur). This, I think, is really suspicious... partially because Excadrill also seems to be a money pack. But, again, maybe it was just some supreme coincidence and/or a perfect, textbook case of the selective data fallacy. Either way though, I sure the hell am not complaining over getting THREE Entei EXs.
Here's my pack data BTW:
DE EX.GR 42 35 10 69 27 / 28 13 / 62 98 12
DE EX.DR 81 45 64 27 21 / 64 13 / 99 4 92
DE EX.FI 9 81 69 86 14 / 14 48 / 16 94 25
DE EX.GR 86 7 39 50 1 / 4 19 / 18 73 99
DE EX.LI 64 83 31 42 35 / 9 53 / 100 16 93
DE VE.DR 21 1 80 35 44 / 68 79 / 51 102 62
DE VE.DR 23 64 42 35 80 / 10 17 / 91 76 18
DE VE.LI 64 69 35 27 9 / 86 17 / 24 101 60
DE VE.DR 31 23 15 64 69 / 33 68 / 32 18 51
DE VE.GR 39 21 50 84 75 / 3 13 / 95 28 98
....
At this point I think we've got enough data for me to start work on the Common Print Run list! Likewise, there may be enough data to begin calculating rarity ratios based on Pokémon pack depiction, as well as overall rarity ratio (like, chances of getting non-holo rare, holo rare, EX rare, Full Art EX rare, mega ultra rare).
THANK everyone for your efforts! YOU make this all possible!! (^_^)
Nick15
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That's weird that there was no number printed on the inside of your box like that!
I now wonder if that's not some sort of coincidence, considering that your box had repeating common blocks like it did. Maybe it was some kind of "calibration" or "test" box that wasn't supposed to be released.
To which, can you see if your cards--whether the commons, uncommons, rares, EXs, etc--appear different in any way, shape or form? Squared corners, different printing technique, mis-cut borders... anything that may differentiate your box from other cards?
Miamisportsfan45
Active Member
Not sure how much this matters exactly seeing as I don't have any "special info" but I managed to pull two identical packs the other day. Unaware of the artwork of either of the packs, not even sure if it was the same artwork or not - But I thought it was interesting that I pulled the same exact cards in the same identical order of both packs. Every card was exactly the same order and the exact same as far as what was pulled, how they were ordered, including the rares and reverses.
Nick15
Member
As long as I can clearly see each card in the pack and what Pokémon is in the pack, then yes, I should be able to parse the info!
bullados
<a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?
Check my sig to see some of the vids I've already put up. The box opening vids will look very similar.
---------- Post added 05/24/2012 at 10:46 PM ----------
Here's my video. 40 minutes long. It should be up in about 1.5 hours. The box number is 149859.
I got Darkrai, Entei, FA Raikou, and Gardy. Three of those from the LHS.
Good box. Have fun parsing that ^_^
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Nick15
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I will have fun! And I'm not being sarcastic; I truly enjoy this kind of work (otherwise I wouldn't be doing these print runs!)
Ok, once I parse your video and one other person's video, I'll begin work on the Common PR, and hopefully the Uncommon PR and pack/rare analysis. I expect this to be done by tonight!
Huzzah, good times.
bullados
<a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?
I've still got one other box to open. Not to mention some tins and other stuff that might help out...
For those that missed it... BOX OPENING!!!
For those that missed it... BOX OPENING!!!
Since Pokemon has clearly made it a priority to lessen the value of cards pulled, I might as well throw in some information.
First, I don't know what the number on the inside of the boxes stand for, but all the cases that I've opened have the same number on each box in the case. For instance, the case of Dark Explorers that I opened all had the number: 143760. Maybe it's a case number, maybe multiple cases have this number. I don't know. I'll pay more attention, but I've never seen a case change numbers in the middle of it.
I didn't write down all the cards that were in my cases, but have some information that may help put the runs together. There are 12 cards to a box that are Holo or above. 6 of those cards are on the right side of the box, and 6 of them are on the left side of the box. Here is the wrapping order of these cards in a box:
5-3-3-4-1-2
That means that if you open a pack that has a Holo or better card in it and are at the 5 spot, then you can count 3 packs from there and get another Holo or better. And then 3 packs from there and get a Holo+, and 4 packs from there and get a Holo+ and the next pack will be a Holo+ and in 2 packs there will be another Holo+.
This is a wrapping pattern per side of box. So the left side of a box could have Holo+ cards in packs:
5, 8, 11, 15, 16, 18
OR
2, 5, 8, 12, 13, 15
OR
1, 4, 7, 11, 12, 14
etc...
This works for both sides of the box and is independent of each other. The left side of a Dark Explorers box always has a non-full art EX at position 5. The right side of a Dark Explorers box always has a non-full art EX at position 5, a full art EX at the second 3 position, and if it has a secret rare it's at the 2 position.
As you can see, the right side of a Dark Explorers box is clearly the better one. All the other positions will contain holos. All the pack in between these positions will contain rares.
Sometimes there are slight errors, but overall, this is the pattern. Below is the raw data from my Dark Explorers case, starting with box 1 (if the front of the boxes are facing you when they're sitting in the case) and ending with box 6. Obviously the numbers on the left are for the left side of the box and the numbers on the right are for the right side of the box. Italic and Underlined are regular EXs, Bold and Underlined are Full Art EXs, and all three means Secret Rare.
I jacked up the left side of the first box by forgetting to write down some of the holos that I found.
5-2-5-4-?-? / 2-1-2-4-3-6
2-5-3-3-4-1 / 2-5-3-3-4-1
5-3-3-4-1-2 / 2-5-3-3-4-1
4-1-3-1-5-4 / 3-1-2-6-3-3
5-3-3-4-1-2 / 2-5-3-3-4-1
5-1-2-1-6-3 / 4-1-2-5-3-3
As you can see there are exceptions, but the overall pattern is there. This same formula held true for Next Destinies as well. Even with this information it's still not profitable to buy boxes for resell unless you were getting the boxes for $66 or could sell the "worthless" packs unopened. And that's before they nerfed the prices of EXs with the tins.
Anyway, hope this pattern helps place random packs that people open.
First, I don't know what the number on the inside of the boxes stand for, but all the cases that I've opened have the same number on each box in the case. For instance, the case of Dark Explorers that I opened all had the number: 143760. Maybe it's a case number, maybe multiple cases have this number. I don't know. I'll pay more attention, but I've never seen a case change numbers in the middle of it.
I didn't write down all the cards that were in my cases, but have some information that may help put the runs together. There are 12 cards to a box that are Holo or above. 6 of those cards are on the right side of the box, and 6 of them are on the left side of the box. Here is the wrapping order of these cards in a box:
5-3-3-4-1-2
That means that if you open a pack that has a Holo or better card in it and are at the 5 spot, then you can count 3 packs from there and get another Holo or better. And then 3 packs from there and get a Holo+, and 4 packs from there and get a Holo+ and the next pack will be a Holo+ and in 2 packs there will be another Holo+.
This is a wrapping pattern per side of box. So the left side of a box could have Holo+ cards in packs:
5, 8, 11, 15, 16, 18
OR
2, 5, 8, 12, 13, 15
OR
1, 4, 7, 11, 12, 14
etc...
This works for both sides of the box and is independent of each other. The left side of a Dark Explorers box always has a non-full art EX at position 5. The right side of a Dark Explorers box always has a non-full art EX at position 5, a full art EX at the second 3 position, and if it has a secret rare it's at the 2 position.
As you can see, the right side of a Dark Explorers box is clearly the better one. All the other positions will contain holos. All the pack in between these positions will contain rares.
Sometimes there are slight errors, but overall, this is the pattern. Below is the raw data from my Dark Explorers case, starting with box 1 (if the front of the boxes are facing you when they're sitting in the case) and ending with box 6. Obviously the numbers on the left are for the left side of the box and the numbers on the right are for the right side of the box. Italic and Underlined are regular EXs, Bold and Underlined are Full Art EXs, and all three means Secret Rare.
I jacked up the left side of the first box by forgetting to write down some of the holos that I found.
5-2-5-4-?-? / 2-1-2-4-3-6
2-5-3-3-4-1 / 2-5-3-3-4-1
5-3-3-4-1-2 / 2-5-3-3-4-1
4-1-3-1-5-4 / 3-1-2-6-3-3
5-3-3-4-1-2 / 2-5-3-3-4-1
5-1-2-1-6-3 / 4-1-2-5-3-3
As you can see there are exceptions, but the overall pattern is there. This same formula held true for Next Destinies as well. Even with this information it's still not profitable to buy boxes for resell unless you were getting the boxes for $66 or could sell the "worthless" packs unopened. And that's before they nerfed the prices of EXs with the tins.
Anyway, hope this pattern helps place random packs that people open.
Bilbo Baggins
New Member
6 boxes showing similarities is far more evidence then 1 box. Also could have to do with the serial number too....
waynegg
CotD Editor<br>Forum Moderator
Sweet, thanks!
Yeah, I'm really curious about the stamp under the box's lid too... thanks for posting the one in your box, bullados! Hopefully we can sort out what it's for...
It's a lot number.
treyh37
Member
heres 12 more packs from a box,
front left hand side
ex 50 39 7 86 42 / 1 / 17 / 101 25 94
sc 1 21 27 64 45 / 75 / 30 / 24 91 99
ve 15 23 31 41 33 / 77 / 88 / 24 18 99
da 33 1 23 86 45 / 96 / 82 / 95 12 85
ex 10 67 83 40 55 / 85 / 49 / 102 60 101
sc 41 33 14 75 1 / 35 / 19 / 92 73 96
ve 9 78 44 35 80 / 102 / 54 / 62 102 51
da 9 27 35 69 64 / 81 / 74 / 94 2 85
ex 42 31 83 64 14 / 25 / 52 / 76 60 34
sc 39 7 86 42 58 / 95 / 77 / 8 87 100
ve 69 64 15 23 31 / 49 / 5 / 8 98 28
da 10 67 83 40 55 / 45 / 79 / 94 16 59
front left hand side
ex 50 39 7 86 42 / 1 / 17 / 101 25 94
sc 1 21 27 64 45 / 75 / 30 / 24 91 99
ve 15 23 31 41 33 / 77 / 88 / 24 18 99
da 33 1 23 86 45 / 96 / 82 / 95 12 85
ex 10 67 83 40 55 / 85 / 49 / 102 60 101
sc 41 33 14 75 1 / 35 / 19 / 92 73 96
ve 9 78 44 35 80 / 102 / 54 / 62 102 51
da 9 27 35 69 64 / 81 / 74 / 94 2 85
ex 42 31 83 64 14 / 25 / 52 / 76 60 34
sc 39 7 86 42 58 / 95 / 77 / 8 87 100
ve 69 64 15 23 31 / 49 / 5 / 8 98 28
da 10 67 83 40 55 / 45 / 79 / 94 16 59
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