Why is everyone giving the Oklahomans a hard time? It is obvious that they want to play but many can not because of the venue choice, which has apparently been chosen not to serve the Southern Plains Region but to serve the growing Pokemon community in an area of Texas. Also, while promoting the game is more often than not good, when it is done at the expense of an already established region (Oklahoma) then it is only natural for that area to dissent, which is what Whicker and his “PILE-ONS” have been doing. I can not believe that Mr.Meches actually accused Whicker of having poor spirit of game when all Whicker did was argue, with civility, that he thought the venue was a bad choice for the Southern Plains Regionals. Then Mr.Meches went so far as to say Whicker was a “bad apple“ who is spoiling the bunch, all because Whicker dissented. The Oklahomans are only voicing their discontent over the venue choice, and that does not make them wrong, nor does it warrant calling them poor sports because they argue their point. They just want to play the game.
Thank you.
MrMeches said:
With that being said, you should never DISRESPECT a PTO in a PUBLIC FORUM for whatever reason. You have "suggestive" comments that can be perceived as threatening statements and there is just no place for that.
As I have stated more than enough times in this topic already, I have never disrespected Mike Cook. Jorel said, "I hope Whicker makes top 4 or something and have Mike Cook as a judge," which was an OBVIOUS sarcastic comment. If you thought that it wasn't, then you should be getting on to him for implying that Mike would, in fact, make a bad ruling against me. I responded sarcastically as well, because a comment such as that deserves to be humored with a sarcastic response. It was all in good fun. Secondly, the "Mike Cook does not care about Oklahomans" was a simple hyperbole. When you tell someone, "There are like a million people in that room," you normally do not mean that there are actually a million people in that room, but you used exaggeration to make a point that there are a lot of people in the room. Obviously, my talking it out without exaggeration only received flames from the people who disagreed, so I figured I needed a little extra help in order to explain my point.
MrMeches said:
Your complete lack of acknowledgement that MPB opted not to do REGIONALS hurts you even further.
Read the thread. I DID acknowledge this. Again, my main point was to ensure that people realized the fact that Dallas was the best area for Regionals. The second point (which kind of sneaked in) was to show that Mike Cook should have thought about the arguments presented last year and put the Regionals in Dallas. He had a whole year to find a venue, so if he wanted it badly enough, it would have easily been done.
MrMeches said:
Realize that do to some of the statements you have issued here, and past occurrences could wind you up not playing at ANY of the tournies!
I'm sorry civil debate is looked down upon in these forums. I'm sorry discontent with something is looked down upon in these forums... oh wait... it's not. I just want to let you know, other than a bad call at a Southern Plains Regional TWO years ago, I have a perfectly clean record. I'd also like to point out that both this year's and last year's "debates" over the Regional location have been 100% clean. That being said, I really hope people don't keep me from playing in tournaments just because they disagree with me.
MrMeches said:
Building a "CASE" to try and undermine something/ someone that is set is not the way to go. I am surprised that you are in your illustrious debate, yet your portrayal here is so barbaric. You can comment that what you intended was not an attack at Mike, but nonetheless, it is not how you meant it but how it was received that is the point. You should know this from debate. No matter what words you use, it is how they are interpreted by the masses the determine if they are right or wrong, hurtful or helpful, healthy or slanderous.
Again, the point of this isn't to undermine Mike Cook, it's to show discontent of the location and why another location makes better sense.
My approach has been anything but barbaric. I've explained the two posts in question fully and the rest of them have not been questioned. If they are ever questioned, then I will easily be able to explain them fully as well. No one wants to be hated, including me. I'm not going to become a barbarian and attack every living thing.
I understand your interpretations point. That is why I explained the purpose behind them. If you still interpret those posts as flaming after my explanation, then it will become obvious to me that you are going to try even the slighest grounds on which to kick me out of tournaments on, which I know you are not.
MrMeches said:
As it has been said in moany songs before, " YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT" and this just happens to be one of those times.
Once again I realize this. However, I do believe it's perfectly fair for me to want to play in premier tournament considering the Worlds-invite system that is currently in place. I cannot believe people are still disagreeing with me on this.
MrMeches said:
A side note for all those deciding to PILE ON from OK, personally I know most of you and I expect so much more class from you. Geography isn't something we need lessons in. I believe as much as MPB drives up there and takes care of tournaments for you, you would at the very least show him some respect as he is the individual that discussed this over with Team Cook and made the final decision to not hold Regionals here do to other situaitons. Team Cook stepped up and agreed to do it in Houston and carry the ball for Southern Plains Region! Read MPB post and then make your comments instead of just Whickers and a few here an there and deciding to post. 1 BAD APPLE can SPOIL the BUNCH! Just don't make it more!
Don't blame their posts on me, first of all. I don't control what they post.
Regardless, I (we) have yet to show any disrespect for Birch. I've read his post, and I do not think it said, "I gave Mike Cook Regionals, and then I told him that he must have it in Houston." I believe his just said that he gave Mike Cook control over the Regional. Once again, Mike Cook should have realized the logic in last year's arguments, and held it in the D/FW area.
I also do not appreciate you calling me a bad apple. Again, I've done nothing wrong.
MrMeches said:
Now go ahead Jordan, I know you will respond in haste as usual, but really think EVERYTHING I have written before responding. We have always had the Love/ Hate realtionship, so be very discreet about your answers and retorts from here on out and show that you are thoughtful and thankful not selfish and crass as to this point is how it is being received!
All important parts responded to. All answers well thought-out and civil.
Rokman said:
How many Oklahomans even play pokemon? How many Houstonians play pokemon? Both deserve equal amounts of pokemon, but people sometimes forget, Pokemon: TCG is a business, not a privilege. It's not so much as a choice for personal/loacal community gain as it is a choice to make money
Houstonians would be able to attend D/FW as well. So would San Antonians. It's fair for ALL.
Rokman said:
so, let the cookie crumble, Whicker.
Once again let me apologize for wanting to play in Regionals with the World-invite system that's in place.
