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I would guess from that list that he is running Sableye and/or Call Energy. If Pokemon and special energy are part of the strategy, it would be helpful to list those as well.

Excellent thread! Lots of good info and brainstorming. Illdyth, your post was very thought-provoking. I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to make Jirachi work. It clearly has potential, especially if you can start with Cyrus's Conspiracy and then start chaning them...

Illdyth has made several great posts about post-rotation draw engines: http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1749392&postcount=1 http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1759797&postcount=27

You can find them online. Trollandtoad has them.

MattPL- can you get the psychic/lightning arceus x in a tin? Can you tell the difference looking at them from the outside? They always look like the meteor blast one to me. OP, forgot to recommend a tin. Garchomp is good and feraligatr and typhlosion are ok, and the packs are from good sets...

There are 2 different arceus tins. The green Walmart tin (which I've never seen in walmart) comes with the omniscient arceus x and 5 packs (3 arceus) plus a pop pack. The blue arceus tin comes with the leaf/fire arceus x and 4 packs (2 arceus). To the op, any of the tins you list should have...

@Spink: Moonlight Stadium is rotated. @wulfboy: In my experience, BTS is essential for quick setup. If you don't get kills very early with this deck, you lose. Champion's Room is a good second stadium to run, and you can always avoid BTS if you think it will help your opponent's deck too...

I've played Sablelock, and you can't maintain the lock indefinitely. You have to be able to do some real damage to take prizes, and Absol G and Shedinja do very little damage. Once your sprays are gone (and you only have 3), the lock is going to crumble fast. As for the Mewtwo X point, you...

I like your idea! However, Sablelock disruption absolutely depends on Power Spray. I would ditch Metagross, you're going to have a hard enough time setting up Crobat. Then make sure you have 3 Cyrus's Conspiracy (4 would be better), and 4 Power Spray, and increase Energy Gain. Then add one...

You really need 4 power spray. I'm not sold on Absol G. Your arguments were: 1) It can kill sleeping baby pokemon. In standard Sablelock, you would snipe over them with Honchkrow G and Garchomp C until they flip awake, then you kill them. 2) It can hit Mewtwo X. If you have special dark...

Dugtrio stacks, so why not up it to 3-3 so that you can put at least 2 on the bench and really punish retreat? Bronzong SF is for draw? But you're not running Engineer's and you have low energy requirements? What am I missing? Because Bronzong is asking to get bright looked. I would ditch...

In addition to the reasons listed above, it is a bench-sitter that can be sniped in one-shot by Garchomp C X, one of the best/most popular cards in the format.

If only you already had the answer. Twice. ;-)

Between Cyrus and Honchkrow G, it's easy to get SP radar and get those cards out fast, if you don't happen to have Collector in your initial hand. Plus you run a ton of rescue cards, so getting them back won't be a problem. Maybe bump up the SP radar by one if you go to 2/2 crobat/skuntank though.

BTS is mandatory in Mightyena, one of the goals is donking. Play 4. And add some other stadium in case your opponent plays BTS so you can discard theirs. Contest Hall is a decent choice. I would run 4x Honchkrow G or use Sableye as a starter. Use 1 Mightyena LA for SP. You probably don't...

Ha, that is awesome. In your experience, does the warp/switch approach work better than level max?

For maximum flippancy, you should run 4x Level Max to level up Heatran instead of Warp/Switch.

Luxray isn't any less of a threat to KGL when it is active and attacking (unless I'm missing something). When you use Mega Tidal Wave, you aren't going to be doing much damage against low-energy SP decks. And since SP has great searching cards, they are often going to be able to grab Luxray...

Cool idea! Jirachi (nitpick: actually from RR) seems like a good idea. You should probably run Interviewer's Questions--doubling that could get you a bunch of energy. Does call energy help you much? Seems like you'd only use it for Totodile, and you're already using 4x collector. I would...

One of the main points of Sableye is to get the donk, so I think Snowpoint isn't good either. Plus, you're using the stadium to allow poison, but then adding 20HP to any active basic, effectively wasting a turn of poison. You could always run Ultimate Zone :lol: