All-Out! [HP-on]

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  1. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    Pokémon

    1x Gyarados* δ :fire: HP (Main attacker)

    3x Skitty :colorless PK
    3x Delcatty ex :colorless CG
    1x Delcatty :colorless PK

    2x Budew :grass: DP

    2x Chingling :psychic: DP2
    =12

    Trainer

    4x Holon Mentor DF
    4x Bebe's Network DP2/3
    4x Warp Point CG
    2x Night Maintenance
    3x Island Hermit
    3x Switch
    =20

    Energy
    28x :fire:

    Strategy
    Ching or Budew start. Then Start loading Gyarados* and try get at least 1 Catty ex and 1 Catty on the bench. Then attack with Gyarados* to OHKO everything. Next turn hope you have Warp POint in your hand, use that to switch Catty ex to attack over 200=OHKO everything.

    For Trainers
    Mentor - Gets my basics
    Bebe - Search my Pokés
    Warp Point - Better than Switch, I need that to switch between Gyarados* and Catty ex
    Night Maintenance - Get's my Gyarados* back from the Discard Pile
    Island Hermit - If Gyarados* is Prized, I can see what Prize I get
    Switch - More switching Catty ex <--> Gyarados*

    And for Mods and Admins, THIS ISN'T JOKE!!!
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2007
  2. master1116

    master1116 New Member

    Try This:

    11 Pokemon:
    1 Gyarados* δ

    3 Skitty PK
    3 Delcatty ex

    4 Budew

    22 Trainers:
    4 Holon Mentor
    4 Bebe's Search
    4 Warp Point
    4 Night Maintenance
    3 Island Hermit (if Gyarados* is prized,you'll know which prize to get)
    3 Switch

    27 Energy:
    27 Fire

    Seems like a few people are starting to build decks around *pokemon (including me). nice deck, i might use it, lol (if i could get 4 Catty ex's by Battle Roads).Potion "MIGHT" help so you won't waste too many Night Main. on getting Gyrados* back, but i don't see room. You could also use 1-2 Holon's Castform for some quick energy.

    Night Maintenance - Trainer

    Search your discard pile for 3 in any combination of Pokemon and Basic Energy cards, show them to your opponent, and shuffle them into your deck.


    Bebe's Search – Supporter Card

    Choose 1 card from your hand and shuffle it into your deck. Then, search your deck for a Pokemon card, show it to your opponent, and put it in your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.

    You can play 1 Supporter card during your turn. Place this card next to your Active Pokemon. At the end of your turn, discard this card.
     
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  3. finalstain

    finalstain New Member

    Island Hermits are necessary.
     
  4. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    Why PETM? IMO Celio is better...
    Maintenance will be good, to get My Gyarados* back, Bebe would be better than PETM.
    I made some calculates:
    Let's say that Gyarados* has 4 Energy, and Catty ex 1 Energy. Then I have 30 Energy in my deck. I use All-Out Blast, so my Gyarados* will make 650 if I'm right...
     
  5. master1116

    master1116 New Member

    the deck is risky if your opponent has Rhyperior or Aggron pK, cause they can make you discard cards from your deck. If you don't have a Warp point in yur hand before you use all out blast you will lose in 2 more turns (even if they don't play Rhyperior or Aggron PK). I would say add some more switch to make the odds better, but i still don't see room. I edited my list a little more. check it out. i was able to add 3 switch. With the lack of pokemon in the deck, your opponent might deck out before the game's over, i would go with Budew, so you can get switches and Warps before you discard them all
     
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  6. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    I edited my list...
    Do I need those Catty PK's? I would add 1 to Discard Energy but not Draw nothing.
    No Chingling? I don't know anyone that use Aggron or Rhyperior...
     
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  7. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    Have you considered the unown that stops you decking?
     
  8. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    What Unown is it? Is it from DP?

    Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

    I found it! It's :unknown-z (Unown Z) from DP3
     
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  9. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    The massive flaw IMO is that when your deck becomes your discard pile due to all-out-blast you are left massively vulnerable due to the only remaining resources being the contents of your hand, one card in your deck and your in-play cards. As Delcatty only returns energies, then night maintenance, warp points, other delcatties etc. are all lost and unretrievable (unless you START with night maintenance).

    After all-out-blast, Energy draw essentially becomes lose one energy to get three. Unecessary, really.

    Budew's dependance on obtaining night maintenance and then getting bebe's network and such to save Gyarados* if it dies is too inconvenient.

    Now what MIGHT work is scapegoating budews after a mentor while you fuel Garry the Gyarados*.

    trouble is, 80 hit points can be drained VERY easily and you then lose many turns of setup.

    Simply put, even the strength can't stand up to opponent's speed of setup or the opponent's capability to KO Garry.

    A much more consistent option is Rayquaza* with buffer pieces to get the 4 or 6 prizes it needs to sway the lead. With potions (the one time I mention potion without joking) and gardevoir PK or other energy accelerators you can take a few matchups.
     
  10. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    After I get set-up ready, I start attackin'! And this Deck would be "fun" Deck, not for Tournaments...
     
  11. KakashiPikachu

    KakashiPikachu New Member

    a "fun" deck huh
     
  12. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    Yes. I don't have all cards yet, but I'm tryin' to get all...
     
  13. KakashiPikachu

    KakashiPikachu New Member

    cool, do they have jolteon ex yet? that would be sweet :smile:
    ( jolteon lover here )
     
  14. Jayson

    Jayson Active Member

    Add a 2-1-2 Blaziken (or Typhlosion DP) line or else Gyarados will take way too long to power up.
     
  15. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    This would also give you a decent back-up attacker as well as the much needed support. I'd do it myself if this were my deck!
     
  16. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    I think that...
     
  17. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    Want to know hwo to get a Turn 2 All-out blast and consistent upstream/blasts from then on with high consistency?
     
  18. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Run 4 Skitties.
     
  19. master1116

    master1116 New Member

    here's another idea

    16 Pokemon:
    2 Cyndaquil
    1 Quilava
    2 Typphlosion

    3 Skitty PK
    2 Delcatty ex
    1 Delcatty PK

    2 Budew

    2 Chingling

    1 Gyarados* δ

    17 Trainers:
    4 Warp Point
    3 Bebe's Search
    3 Night Maintenance
    3 Holon Mentor
    2 Island Hermit
    2 Rare Candy

    27 Energy:
    27 Fire

    Cyndaquil L.12 – Fire – HP60
    Basic Pokemon

    [.] Tackle: 10 damage.
    [R][C] Live Coals: 20 damage.

    Weakness: Water (+10)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1

    Quilava L.25 – Fire – HP80
    Stage 1 – Evolves from Cyndaquil

    [R][C] Fireworks: 40 damage. Flip a coin, if tails discard a Fire Energy attached to Quilava.

    Weakness: Water (+20)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1

    Typhlosion L.46 – Fire – HP110
    Stage 2 – Evolves from Quilava

    Poke-Power: Firestarter
    You can use this power once during your turn. Attach 1 Fire Energy from your discard pile to 1 of your Benched Pokemon. This power can’t be used if Typhlosion is affected by a Special Condition.

    [R][R][C] Vaporizing Heat: 60 damage. Discard a Water Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.

    Weakness: Water (+30)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 2
     
  20. master1116

    master1116 New Member

    i would say Dodrio MT for a 0 retreater. i'll look up some others though
     
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