Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Blissey too strong?

yeah, i know you can get both t2 going to my turn 2 against a krick who is about to do 60+ and wager you where now you have to draw a boost to OHKO, or an NRG, plus power (if it even plays it) and strength charm. And if your depending on your Delcatty to NRG draw you better have the windstorm in hand, and the delcatty set up. Kind of hard to do all by your T3 even if you win wager, i'm not saying it's impossible, far from it, just very hard.

oh and what happens when I KO your blissey T3. Your next is only going to be KOing my first krick while my second one is ready to do another 60+. It's a very even matchup, just the krick is slightly more consistent early, mid and late game.

Blissey beats Kricketune 90/10, I'm not going to go into details because apparently not many people know a good Blissey list OR how to beat KRICKETUNE (Is that a deck?!)
 
And now that my help was ignored, I leave you all to your own silly devices...

My aren't any silly device, just facts. Blissey supports will do that, support the deck against all odds. It has happened before here in the gym with Metanite and possibly others. What ever counter you throw at them they have an answer. I was just waiting for someone to say that they were going to start playing buffer piece in their blissey so that it would be better then Krick. The thing is we only have 60 cards to a deck, so you can't possibly fit all those counters in Blissey. The deck is only second to krick and a possible tie with lucario.

If you say you have a Ghost that resists colorless, they have Holon FF + fighting. If you say you have a fighting pokemon, they have Holon FF + fire. If you have a Ghost like Gengar that places damage counters, they have have Holon WP + W. If you have something that gives it a special condition, they have Holon GL + grass. If you have a faster/more consistent deck like Krick they have the buffer piece for that. There is no answer to Blissey, it is the BDIF :)rolleyes:).

That is the approach that will continue to happen for about 5-7 pages from here on out. Unless we can all agree that Blissey is one of the top 3 decks in the format, heck possibly even number 1 depending on your metagame. But what happens at regionals, nats, worlds? we will see with future sets being released and a wider metagame. It can't possibly tech for everything and stay as consistent as it is at the same time.
 
I am going to tell you this in an effort to help you
The key to beating Blissey does NOT lie in weakness

I have a few anti Blissey decks, and i think i can release one to help you guys out
Charizard d Flygon d with Plus Powers and Stregnths

Charizard does 120 damage, just 10 short of koing blissey
With a plus power or a stregnth, you can one shot it
Flygon d allows you to attack every turn
Charizard\'s bulky 120 hp means Blissey isnt going to one shot him any time soon

This isnt the best Blissey counter i made, but a combonation of my confidence in your intelegence and me just not caring enough to post the others leave me to let you guys work it out.
Yes, this is how you beat blissey. You need to 1 shot it with something that can survive a hit from it. I ran 3 plus powers and a charm in my flyvire list just to counter blissey...works like a charm. I'm also 2-0 against blissey with sally ex. Weakness isn't even a problem since you take down the blisseys too fast for them to get anything significant on them.
 
lol...wp does the same job for gl...but better....
it stops all efects from attacks..stops special conditions..lol.
 
lol...wp does the same job for gl...but better....
it stops all efects from attacks..stops special conditions..lol.

if this is true then it's stupid, special conditions and effects should be considered two different things. i need confirmation please.
 
i run 3 cc crystals and 2 bf so they cant windtorms all of them away and lucario and a lake boundary

btw i wish they out blissey in pop 6
 
NOT TRUE AT ALL.

my friend gabe ran a few and got 2nd,as well as my friend greg running 2 getting 2nd also(different battle roads).
so yea,it is definitley played.

Actually, I run WP, too, but everyone else in my area runs FF.

I figure, if Lucario still has an advantage if I put FF in there, I may as well just accept the loss and run WP for free retreat and Crystal Veil.
 
why not just run 2-2..or even 3-1.
just saying..lucario canot 1hko you..machamp cannot 1hko you even with heads...so ff really imo isnt that useleful ...but when your paralyzed and cannot attack..thats a different story..wp imo is so useful....PLAY IT.
 
why not just run 2-2..or even 3-1.
just saying..lucario canot 1hko you..machamp cannot 1hko you even with heads...so ff really imo isnt that useleful ...but when your paralyzed and cannot attack..thats a different story..wp imo is so useful....PLAY IT.

Plus, it helps save space by requiring that you run fewer Warp Points. That extra slot or two can make a world of difference.
 
My aren't any silly device, just facts. Blissey supports will do that, support the deck against all odds. It has happened before here in the gym with Metanite and possibly others. What ever counter you throw at them they have an answer. I was just waiting for someone to say that they were going to start playing buffer piece in their blissey so that it would be better then Krick. The thing is we only have 60 cards to a deck, so you can't possibly fit all those counters in Blissey. The deck is only second to krick and a possible tie with lucario.

The reason we support the deck against all odds, as you put it, is because it DOES have outs against almost, if not, everything! (If it means anything, I had the same opinion about Metanite until Ape was released.) Blissey doesn't need to play Buffer to be better than Kricketune; it already is. Kricketune can't even T2 your BASIC without two PlusPower. Blissey is better than Kricketune and I will stand by that. And what exactly plays Lucario besides Mario?

chriscobi634 said:
If you say you have a Ghost that resists colorless, they have Holon FF + fighting. If you say you have a fighting pokemon, they have Holon FF + fire. If you have a Ghost like Gengar that places damage counters, they have have Holon WP + W. If you have something that gives it a special condition, they have Holon GL + grass. If you have a faster/more consistent deck like Krick they have the buffer piece for that. There is no answer to Blissey, it is the BDIF :)rolleyes:).

I'll start off by saying it's DEFINITELY possible to play Holon [FF/WP/GL] and both of their corresponding energy in the same list. We also might have to actually use our brains and try decide which combination is better for a specific tourney. For example, there are almost NO special conditions in our format besides basics that inflict sleep/paralyze on a flip and things like that, so GL would be a really bad idea. If you're expecting fighting decks then play FF, and if not then play WP... seems simple to me. I'd also wager (no pun intended) that Blissey is just as consistent as Kricketune, and again, buffer piece is not needed to beat it, I promise you.

chriscobi634 said:
That is the approach that will continue to happen for about 5-7 pages from here on out. Unless we can all agree that Blissey is one of the top 3 decks in the format, heck possibly even number 1 depending on your metagame. But what happens at regionals, nats, worlds? we will see with future sets being released and a wider metagame. It can't possibly tech for everything and stay as consistent as it is at the same time.

True, we don't know what will come out of the next couple of sets, save the SW scans and translations with release dates of which we are unsure. I can tell you right now, though, that myself and others have found numerous combos with Blissey from these translations and scans alone. It might be killed by something that gets released, or it might get better. I can tech for almost everything as it is now; new cards just bring new options.

FUN FACT: Straight Blissey, Blissey/Decatty, and Blissey/Electivire have won EVERY Florida Battle Road in which they were played.
 
Blissey too strong?

Right now? Yes, maybe. But not really. After SW? No, not at all.

Blissey was the top deck in Japan until DP3's release. Before DP3's release, there was one counter deck to it. After DP3, two good archetypes who counter it exist (one of them who completely crushes Blissey).

One of the Blissey counter decks (which is like 60-40 against Blissey I guess, just barely a counter) is already available for anyone to make in our current format (it's an MT based deck). The other one (which is like 80-20 against Blissey) is available for everyone starting November.

Get your creative hats on and throw away your sour grapes, there's always a counter. We only have to look a little bit into the future (Japan) to have that confirmed. ;) Although I have to say the lack of Cursed Stone in our format makes those Japanese anti-Blissey-winners a bit weaker in our format. Let's wait and see.
 
Blissey is brutal, but this happens every format
Remember last year it was Metanite, and the year before it was LBS?
One deck always emerges as extremely powerful, and this is always going to happen

A word of advice (that will hopefull be acknowledged this time), dont play against only one deck in the format
Rather, keep it in mind, and think \"What will I do if i face Blissey in a tournoment?\"
Just keep your chin up people, and I am sure you will think of something.
 
Chriscobi: GL will remove special conditions already on the Poke. WP prevents the special conditon/effect from happening in the 1st place. WP will not cure a condition though.

Keith
 
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