CELEXA- Celebi, Exeggutor, Ambipom

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  1. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    4 celebi dp2
    4 exeggcute dp2
    4 exeggutor dp2
    2 aipom dp2
    2 ambipom dp2

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    2 great ball
    2 mentor
    4 celio's
    4 copycat
    2 team galactic's wager
    2 battle frontier
    3 crystal beach
    2 scott
    2 castaway
    2 cessation
    3 switch

    --- 28

    16 grass energy

    -- 16

    STRATEGY:
    (1) Celebi would be the preferred starter, self-charging, then attacking on T2 for 30, and moving Energy to Exeggcute/Exeggutor, which uses this Basic Energy to do massive damage (although flipping). Switch is used to get the Celebi outta there, and Exeggutor up front without wasting Energy.
    (2) If you start Exeggcute, T2 Exeggutor can either self-charge, or charge another Pokemon, or both; or, hits big (although flipping).

    (3) If you start Aipom, T2 Ambipom either (a) hits for 30 and makes opponent flip for Energy Removal (true, this is against Exeggutor's strength, but who argues against Energy Removal?), or (b) hits for 80 if opponent has less than 2 cards (not often, but this stops opponent from using too many cards at once).

    (4) Copycat takes advantage of opponent's fear of using too many cards, and assures a decent draw, so it's better than Steven's here. Team Galactic's Wager is used as hand disruption, and also for the outside chance of getting Ambiopom's Charity Tail to 80.

    (5) Battle Frontier/ Cessation Crystal are for opponent shutdown. Crystal Beach does the same, and forces opponent to use Basic Energy, which works to Exeggutor advantage. 2 Castaway should be enough to get the Cessation, and 15 Grass should mean that Castaway isn't necessary for Energy searching.
     
  2. doctormcdreamy

    doctormcdreamy New Member

    this deck is doc approved. i dont see a lot of synergy though. ;) but you probably get a lot of that flack from the mario thread.
     
  3. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    Celebi/ Exeggutor definitely have the synergy. Ambiopom is included as a Colorless attacker to spread the Weakness.
     
  4. doctormcdreamy

    doctormcdreamy New Member

    celebi/egg has some beginning game synergy.
     
  5. twitchy lv x

    twitchy lv x New Member

    what set did scott got reprinted?

    also i think u can drop 1 or 2 copycat since they might discard for the monkey
     
  6. Chromecatz

    Chromecatz New Member

    PK i think
     
  7. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

  8. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    What do you do when your exeguttor gets KO'd with the energy on it? Start the process all over again?
     
  9. fragnito

    fragnito New Member

    well it does the opponent energy too so he really only needs one and it adds with however many they add
     
  10. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    There has to be all kinds of strategies. For example, if you play against Flygon, you know your opponent needs 3 energy. If you're keeping Crystal Beach in play, you're really hurting his Castform. So, then, Flygon needs 3 Basic Energy to hit, which means you only need one energy to flip 4 times. With that, you could have the luxury of building only one energy on an Exeggutor, and building another one also. Or, keep a watch on hsi card count to do 80 with Ambiopom. Another idea would be to sacrifice Celebi, to get 2 Grass moved to an Exeggutor or Ambiopom.

    So, I don't think it's always about "building" since you're talking 3 cards (Eggs Jr- Eggs- Grass Energy) to get something going. Let's face it: if the Defending Pokemon has no energy on it, you're doing pretty well. And that's where Commanding Tail is actually a plus, even though it serves as a minus to Exeggutor.
     
  11. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    But then you can do 0 damage, and he can OHKO you. Or you can do 40 damage and he can OHKO you. Or you can do 80 damage and he can OHKO you. Or you can do 120 damage and he can OHKO you. In only one example are you even KO'ing him (4 heads). That's a 20% chance of OHKO'ing it, and 40% chance your not even going to put a dent in him (0 heads and 1 heads). I think it would just be way too luck based.
     
  12. stalkerex

    stalkerex New Member

    I like it. Alot of people are afriad to try flippy decks. I have always loved them. The gengar from (d/p) has made me very happy. True im not running the gengar at the moment but i will never say its to flippy.
     
  13. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    Matt: Umm... sorry, don't follow your scenario. Who am I OHKO'ing with 120? Not Flygon d EX, which is 150hp. And who is OHKO'ing me? Exeggutor is weak to Fire and is 90hp, so no OHKO there (assuming no damage to start).

    And the odds of hitting four heads is not 20%, it's like 6.25% but, in actuality, all coin flips are 50%, so with 4 flips, you're likely to get 2 heads, which is 60 damage using 1 energy and facing a Pokemon with 3 Basic Energy.

    Let's say it's T3. You started with Celebi, used Sprout, then T2 Leaf Tornado for 30 and move the Energy to Exeggcute. Switch or get KO'd on T3, Exeggutor comes out, add another Energy and start flipping at least 3x 30, with a clean Exeggutor.

    Now, there is the scenario where the delta Rainbow energy is used, and then I don't get the benefit of either Crystal Beach or Exeggutor's attack, but I can still use Commanding Tail for the Energy Removal.

    I think the deck works for those who can roll a "Kevin Nance."
     
  14. Skarmbliss

    Skarmbliss New Member

    Eggy needs 2 buffer piece to survive heavy damage so he can last longer and would be able to use his string bomb attack more.
     
  15. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    I suppose I could take out the Cessation Crystal, or the Battle Frontier to make room for 2 Buffer Piece
     
  16. Dark Weedle

    Dark Weedle New Member

    aipombon is a terrible card. Look for it not to be played at a fall br near you!
     
  17. Chromecatz

    Chromecatz New Member

    i dont get it, why is ambipom even in here?
     
  18. PSYCO829

    PSYCO829 New Member

    so, you are playing ambipom and not blissey because...
     
  19. (TYranitarFReak)

    (TYranitarFReak) New Member

    duh, everyone's talking abt ambipom now.
     
  20. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    Not playing Blissey because I don't like Chansey or Blissey.
    Playing Ambipom because it's cool.
     
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