Empoleon/Mismagius/CLaydol and COLOR!!!!

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  1. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    POKEMON: 19

    x4 Piplup
    x3 Prinplup
    x3 Empoleon
    x1 Empoleon Lv.X

    x2 Misdreavus
    x2 Mismagius

    x2 Baltoy
    x2 Claydol


    3 Rare Candy
    4 Steven's Advice
    3 Roseanne's Research
    4 Celio's Network
    1 Night Maintenence
    1 Time-Space Distortion
    1 Castaway
    1 Scott
    2 Lake Boundry
    2 Strength Charm
    1 Team Galactic's Wager
    2 Glacia's Stadium
    ENERGYS: 16

    3 Scramble
    3 DRE
    x10 Water

    (Editing Strategy)
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2008
  2. The Machampion

    The Machampion New Member

    Well i Think (As I Play Empoleon) - That The Level X Is Nohting Compared to Norma\l - so what 80 to any pokemon once every other turn.

    sp on my advice -

    -1 Empoleon Level X
    +1 Empoleon
  3. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    probably a holon w/p or 2?

    that way you could drop the mawile as empoleon doens't have to bad of a matchup vs. it. Especially if your playing Mismagius.

    Your also running a bit low on energy. 7 basic energy just isn't enough. Both empoleon and Mis have good HP for their stages, so you won't be getting OHKO after OHKO after OHKO. Unless your opponent is dumb and decides to flip all prizes with the first Gallade. So you could probably drop a Scramble and a DRE. Especially the DRE since it lowers your bench damage.

    Your trainer line is pretty good.

    Maybe a warp point in case you want to use the Lv. X.

    Which prior to contrary belief isn't a bad play in this format. With Wager and Claydol.
    Empoleon is more of an offesive deck so Pachi really isn't needed. You could still keep one in as it isn't a bad play. But those 2 spaces are needed somewhere else. With your 3 Roseanne's/8 basics you should be fine

    Now the fixes:

    -1 Scramble
    -1 DRE
    +2 Holon WP

    -1 Mawile
    +1 Water

    -1 castform
    -1 Pachi
    +1 Water
    +1 Psychic

    that increases your single energy card count to 11 which is a whole lot better then 7. Most deck run on 15 to 18 energies. Tsunami and magmortar need a lot. Empoleon and G/G need a little less. you Should be fine with 17 so the castform might not be need. Especially if your running Night Maintenance.

    -1 steven's advice
    +1 TV reporter, just to get rid of pachi, if you draw into it after you have started with it.
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2008
  4. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    I like the Castform for Mismagius and to pull back a DRE. I think that the energys are fine because DRE and Scramble provide more Energys. Steve Reporter? you mean TV Reporter, right? if so, that is a good idea, because I hate drawing Pachi all of the time. I'll consider the Holon WP because I like that against Gallade's Sonic Blade and Gardevoir's Bring Down. But the :psychic: I don't know, I don't really retreat that often.
  5. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    it's not for retreating it's for Mismagius first attack. In case you need it quick. Just one, no more.

    You have to run more basic energy so you can start attaching T1. If you miss energy drops in a non energy acceleration decks, you will lose more games then you win. Another reason you need more basic energy is in case you can't draw into your evolutions.

    DRE and Scramble are too very situation energies, DRE I rarely like in Empoleon as it reduces the bench damage, but it is need at times. Especially since your playing it with Mismagius.
  6. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    DRE is for Mismagius so that as a basic I attach a :water: then DRE for the OHKO to Gallade/Gardevoir. I guess I need more energys, but what do I take out? mabye 2 more :psychic:?
  7. kirstin

    kirstin New Member

    If you really want to counter GG dropthe 3 pachis for absols and drop the claydol lines for cessations crystal
  8. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    Cessation for Claydol?!?!?!?!?! how do I get set up?:confused:
  9. meganium

    meganium New Member

    how do he counter if he drops out all claydy line?
    plus, u need empoly X for more hp,although i agree empoly X is the same as the normal version!!
    wat about pp?
    tat one is compulsory becoz ur mis need some extra-power-boost when u face g&g!!!
    take out one strength charm and some other cards for 2 or 3 more pp!!
    tat's all!!
    gud luck dude!!
  10. XYZ_Sniper

    XYZ_Sniper New Member

    The deck is good and all but i wont recomend it ive tryed it out and lost 2wice to gandg and never won a game
  11. kangaroo

    kangaroo New Member

    i've tried this deck and it has potential, but for some odd reason it doesn't work for me
  12. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    This deck is SO good, it works well for me, I ran it ABOUT 2 months ago, BUT I got it running JUST right now, and with a GREAT starter. If played with the right set up, it is REALLY hard to beat, AND of course I run mine with Cesslock. A PERFECT counter deck, in my Experience!!!
  13. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    Deck Edited.
    I just didn't want to start a new thread. (thankyou mca3 for reminding me)
  14. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    No, Problem! Nice list, looks familiar, lol!!! Just NEEDs Cesslock and a Little, gem eater, but HEY, that would be like Mine!!!

    Nice deck!
  15. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    Sorry, no CC or you'll anoy me for copying your deck.
  16. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    HAHAHA, just a Suggestion, lol!!!
  17. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    Deck edited.
  18. deckmaster

    deckmaster Active Member

    Not bad - I like your list. I would -1 -1 Mis line and add +1 prinplup + Holon WP. :pokeball:
  19. elekid_957

    elekid_957 New Member

    take out:
    2 glacias stadium
    1 strength charm
    1 scramble
    1 water

    add in:
    2 holon wp
    1 castaway
    1 cessation (only to grab with castaway when you really need it)
    1 scott
  20. (TYranitarFReak)

    (TYranitarFReak) New Member

    I tried this variant and it didnt worked as i wanted it to be.

    It seems so good on paper, empo for countering mag and Mis for GG. But when in real games, it just lacks speed to compete with them....

    As for empo X, it might help as sniping catties/claydols or even benched magmars are great.
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