Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by Jigglychu, Nov 27, 2007.
What is the quickest way to get out a stage 2 pokemon?
Rare Candy. It can let you have one out on turn number one if you go second and are lucky. It is a must for any stage two deck!
Yes: Rare Candy.
Although, first you must obtain said Rare Candy and said stage 2, so I'd also have to include a strong trainer engine.
Ok, thanks... Rare Candy is in DP sets? Wait, which sets are still legal? I thought it was DP and up.
The latest printings of the card were in Holon Phantoms and POP 5. Both of those sets are currently legal in the Modified format. The format is not DP-On yet, it is currently HP-On. If you want to know all of the cards that you are allowed to use in the Modified format (the standard for most events), go the the Card Gallery HERE! It has scans of all of the cards that you can use in your tournament deck! :thumb:
And it has been said that it will be reprinted for like the 5th time in the next set! That is how important this card is! It gives Stage twos a fair shot at those quick little stage ones!
Rare Candy is going to be reprinted in the next set
Rare Candy is most likely in Great Encounters, as most people have said.
Now... How to get Rare Candy...
I'm REALLY fond of quick ways to go through your deck. What's the fastest way to look through a deck? Normal trainers. Aaah, Pokedex. Pokenav. Dusk Ball. Aaaaah....
But wait a minute, you play those cards down, and... Then what? your hand size will dwindle rather quickly. We need a way to replenish it. Well, Copycat or Oak's Research let you shuffle your hand in to draw multiple cards. But you know, you'll occasionally have several cards you'll want to keep, rather then shuffle away. Rowan lets you keep a card, then basically do Oak's Research afterwards.
...But wait, we STILL are losing several cards by doing so. Hm... What to do...? Oh, wait a minute? What's this WEIRD supporter from Power Keepers? Professor BIRCH? Huh? Could... This work? Hm... Possibly.
theres no such thing as a fast stage 2 pokemon......
Fast as in, able to hit the table within the first few turns? If we use this definition, you are most mistaken. It is quite plausible to have stage 2 pokemon out by turn 3 without Rare Candy, let alone with Rare Candy...
Fast as in, able to deal 80 damage ASAP? Okay, this is more difficult. Flygon EX d can deal this kinda damage for 3 energy, while Kricketune can do it for 2. You have me here, stage 2s aren't going to be dealing damage as quickly early on.
Fast as in, completely altering the game within the first few turns? Like using Gardevoir (SW)'s power to help set you up? Again, look at the top. It's feasible to have stage 2 pokemon out on the table rather quickly. If all you need is that, then stage 2s can be quite fast. I doubt you'll be able to pull off T2 donks with most stage 2s, but other then that....
Fast doesn't just mean getting it out turn 2 or 3.
It means getting it out turn 2 or 3 CONSISTENTLY.
Stage 2s, especially those relying on rare candies, have a problem with this.
Stage 1 decks do tend to be considerably faster than stage 2s, especially with the lack of a good draw/setup trainer engine this format.
Next set has this Butterfree, I heard...
Caterpie Pokepower: Flip a coin, if heads, get Metapod from deck and evolve Caterpie.
Metapod Pokepower: Flip a coin, if heads, get Butterfree from deck and evolve Metapod.
T1 Butterfree, fast enough for you?
Except that butterfree is a bad card...
The fastest way to get a Stage Two out is to place it on the table and hope your opponent doesn't notice.
Dustox, nidoqueen rg... those are fast stage 2s. THey were fast because their underlings could assist directly in getting them out.
Not many pokemon do that. Kirlia kind of does.
Nidoqueen FRLG was by far my favorite pokemon line. It was gorgeous! Meganium d is a lot like it but with a lamer basic. When the new fossil pokemon come out, they have a quick evolve part to them when you attach a specific energy to them. Butterfree from DP4 is also good in that department? Right now? Not many choices.
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