Gengar C

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  1. Elite_4_Allen

    Elite_4_Allen New Member

    Gengar C

    Deck Name: Gengar C
    Author: Tyler Allen
    Date: 3/17/11
    Format: MD-CL

    First-off, let me tell you that this is just a mini-article, to tell you about a deck I think can do well in this format. Now, Gengar C was first introduced last year, in states, taking first place in Illinois states and fourth place in missouri states. It proved to be a very fast deck, being able to take six prizes in six turns. Of course, the deck was a little bit better last format, when there was Claydol, that was easily snipe-able with Garchomp C, but now the use of Uxie and Azelf as increased. The only other things it lost from the rotation was Rosanne's reasearch, and being able to use Claydol yourself. Anywasy, onto the list:

    3 Gastly (Stormfront)
    2 Haunter (Triumphant)
    1 Gengar (Prime)
    2 Gengar (Stormfront)
    1 Gengar lv. x (Arceus)
    2 Garchomp C (Supreme Victors)
    2 Garchomp C lv. X ( Supreme Victors)
    2 Uxie (Legends Awakened)
    1 Azelf (Legends Awakened)
    1 Mewtwo (Majestic Dawn)
    1 Mewtwo Lv.X (Legends Awakened)
    2 Smeargle (Undaunted)
    1 Crobat G (Platinum)

    4 Cyrus' Conspiracy
    3 Bebe's Search
    3 Pokemon Collector
    3 Broken Time-Space
    3 Rare candy
    3 Poke' Turn
    3 Energy Gain
    1 Sp Radar
    4 Pokemon communication

    6 Psychic energy
    4 Call energy
    4 Double colorless energy
    Main Strategy:
    The main goal of this deck is to take six prizes in six turns.
    Once you get set up, you should be taking a prize card every turn.
    The reason you run a high count of pokemon communication is because during certain games you only need certain pokemon. So, if you don't need gengars, you can shuffle them back into your deck to help set up some Garchomps. But lately, in a lot of games i've found myself setting up both, and attacking with each every other turn. Like, i'll use gengar to knock out an Uxie, then next turn I'll use Garchomp to dragon rush a pokemon. That's a quick way to get six prizes. Onto the cards.
    Gastly: The stormfront one is best as it gives you one turn of trainer lock.

    Haunter: I like the Triumphant one best because it puts people to sleep and has free retreat.

    Gengar (stormfront) An execellent card. It lets you shadow room Uxies and Azelfs and the like, and also has poltergeist, which you won't be using much. A huge part of why he is used is fainting spell. That can get you a prize card if your opponent knocks you out.

    Gengar (prime) Added disruption by taking cards out of the game.
    Gengar Lv.X is in here for the same reason.

    Garchomp C+Garchomp C Lv. X: Garchomp C lv. X is what I consider to be the BCIF. It has healing breath that heals off all the damage on your SP pokemon and it has dragon rush, which, for an energy gain and a dce can do Eighty damage to anyone on the field.

    Uxie: Standard draw for this format.

    Azelf: A card used for getting pokemon out of your prizes.

    Mewtwo MD+Mewtwo Lv.X: This lets you wall against all SP decks, and if they don't have a counter, you get an autowin.

    Smeargle UD: The ideal starter of the deck helping you get a faster start by using more than one supporter a turn.

    Crobat G: This is great for this deck as it allows you to add on extra damage to any pokemon and makes you one-shot Seventy-HP pokemon like Uxie and Azelf.

    Cyrus' Conspiracy: Where a lot of you consistency comes from getting you energy Sp Tools, and other supporters.

    SP Tools (Poke' Turn, Energy Gain, SP Radar) Make your deck a lot faster because you don't have to struggle to get three energy on Garchomp and you can poke' turn injured SP's.

    Bebe's Search: Standard Search card.

    Pokemon Communication: Helps you get rid of uneeded pokemon to get other pokemon that you need.

    Pokemon collector: helps you search for basic pokemon which is a big help in this deck.

    And that's about it! Hope you'll give this deck a try!​
  2. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member


    I was quite the avid Gengar C player last format, so here goes:

    1. Luxury Ball.

    2. Needs a 2nd radar.

    3. 4-2-4 Gengar is imo the best, X isn't needed.

    4. You NEED 4 Collectors. 4 Candies is nice too.

    5. 2 Gains is plenty.

    6. Nice
  3. dialga master

    dialga master New Member

    Chekenboo was way better than gengar C.
    It has more coverage against bad matchups
  4. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Chekenboo? Is that Gengar FB?

    Never played that.
  5. Mama_Luigi

    Mama_Luigi New Member

    Tbh, gengar C isn't worth trying anymore.
    I played gengar C alot last season, so I'd hope I know what I'm talking aobut, although I wasn't really any good last season :p

    Also, although I agree Chickenboo was overall a better deck, Gengar C was more able to beat sps (at least in seniors anyways LOL)

    ---------- Post added 03/17/2011 at 08:48 PM ----------

    If by Gengar Fb you mean Blaziken fb Gengar, then yes.
  6. Scrumpet

    Scrumpet New Member

    Yeah I'm pretty sure I know what he's talking about. I'm thinking about changing my deck to something similar like the OP's. The other Gengar just Shadow Skips for 60, does 10 to a benched, then can switch out with any Pokemon on your bench. It's really annoying and it works.
  7. Elite_4_Allen

    Elite_4_Allen New Member

    Thnx for the feedback.
    But I have to disagree, Mama luigi.
    After my testing, it has favorable matchups against a lot of the format.
  8. Mama_Luigi

    Mama_Luigi New Member

    I'll do some testing then.
    I'll actually be pretty relieved if this does end up working, because this was like my favorite deck back in the days.
  9. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    I would much rather see AmbipomG and Dragonite FB in Mewtwo's spot, since Premier Ball is conspicuously absent. Also, BlazikenFB > GarchompC
  10. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    I like Garchomp a lot however. Dual Sniping is like Dual Chomp, and that's hard to stop.
  11. magicarp101

    magicarp101 New Member

    if anyone is a expert with this deck it is me i got top 8 at nationals with it and should of won but didnt know top cut rules this deck was able to keep up with the format last year because mewtwo counters wenrt so common but now alot of people run dialga in the luxchomp and vilegar has a huge advantage over you with the lock and gyarados was not an easy matchup last year and gyarados has just got faster this year so really this deck doesnt have a chance for very competttive play now
  12. Elite_4_Allen

    Elite_4_Allen New Member

    With gengar prime you can give gyarados a hard time by lost zoning karps, but I do agree with the dialga part.
  13. jalkan

    jalkan New Member

    what else is the gengar prime in there for?
  14. Elite_4_Allen

    Elite_4_Allen New Member

    Just for a little bit of disruption.
  15. jaws_is_ra

    jaws_is_ra Member

    I was thinking you might want to try and work in Lost World as a little extra. It think it might help out with the fact Gengar Prime is going to be sending every thing to the lost zone
  16. WaiterJoy

    WaiterJoy New Member

    Bear in mind that you aren't planning to send 6 cards to the lost zone, just to disrupt your opponent. And lost world would pretty much help your opponent if they're lostgar. And it's another card in a tight list.
  17. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Cuz Gengar C requires consistency more than any other deck in the format imo.

    My old list ran 3-3 Claydol, 4 Bebe's, 4 Comm, 4 Call, 4 BTS, 4 Candy, 4 Rosy's, and 3 Collector.
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