Gliscor/Leafeon Special Conditions Deck (miasma wind and shoot poison combo)

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  1. pokemon: 22

    x2 gligar
    x2 gliscor LA
    x2 gliscor lv. x
    x2 eevee
    x2 Leafeon CL
    x4 spiritomb AR
    x3 phanphy
    x3 Donphan prime
    x2 sableye SF

    trainers/supporters/stadiums: 26

    x4 bebe's search
    x3 pokemon communicator
    x1 luxury ball
    x2 premier ball
    x2 engineer's adjustments
    x3 interviewer's questions
    x2 professor oak's visit
    x2 cynthia's guidance
    x2 energy restorer
    x3 professor oak's new theory
    x2 moonlight stadium


    x12 fighting energy

    this deck uses gliscor and gliscor lv. x to inflict multiple special conditions and then uses leafeon to do 100-150 damage. If gliscor or leafeon is slow in coming, donphan can do cheap damage. Spiritomb is there to evolve gliscor and leafeon and to block trainers. Sableye gets stuff faster with impersonate, and moonlight stadium gives sableye and spiritomb free retreat costs.
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2011
  2. rayquaza2222

    rayquaza2222 New Member

    Edits in Bold

    (Q: What is Moonlight stadium? I can't find it at the Research Tower.)
  3. cabd

    cabd New Member

    Don't worry about it, Rayquaza. Moonlight stadium gives all psychic and dark types free retreat, which would be great in this deck... If it hadnt already rotated out. Moonlight is NOT format-legal. It saw lots of use last season, especially in sablock.
  4. hmmm... rayquaza, there are still 12 spots that need to be filled on the list you gave me. Also, why did you add the sableye and take out so many supporters? Sableye is there for supporters. Another thing, you took out interviewer's questions. Not many energies are needed, but they could be hard to get without them. why also did you take out the premier balls? They help get level Xs quickly and getting gliscor lv. X is essential to the strategy, because without gliscor, no damage can be done. I am also curious about some of the other supporters and trainers that you took out. Could you explain why you took out and added the stuff that you edited?
  5. rayquaza2222

    rayquaza2222 New Member

    ^I left 12 open! :eek:

    1) Interviewers is not very good

    2) Premier Balls can be easily be replace by Bebe's

    3) Uxie for it's set up

    4) Azelf for getting Pokemon out of Prizes

    5) Seeker for pulling up almost dead Pokemon, Uxie, or Azelf out of bench

    Just trust me.
  6. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    ^Listen to this guy.
  7. what should be put in to fill the 12 spaces? How should I get energies without Interviewer's? How will I get level Xs if I use Bebe's on leafeon or gliscor or something? maybe professor elm's...

    ---------- Post added 03/20/2011 at 02:41 PM ----------

    It's not that I don't trust your judgment, but there are some holes and 12 spaces to fill
  8. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    1. 3 Bebe's/Comm is pretty consistent, as is 4 Collector and a Luxury Ball. If you're concerned, up Bebes and Comm up to 4 and add in 2 or 3 Cyrus.

    2. Energies: dude...they need like no energies to attack. However, Cyrus should provide you with the energies and supporters you need.

    3. Add in a Palmer's.

    You should be set :biggrin:!
  9. Thanks! just a thought: any idea how this might do in regionals? Also, +3 cyrus and +1 or 2 palmers, even with +1 bebes or communicator does not fill all 12 empty spaces. Would expert belt be any good in this deck?
  10. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Belt would do nice.
  11. I don't have any seekers. what do I do?
  12. UkeleleMilo

    UkeleleMilo New Member

    You go to a league and trade for Seekers.
    Belts do FANTASTIC here. I'd also add in a Blaziken FB lv X to this... (+40 damage to burned pokemon on both sides) and its body can't be cancelled out by Dialga (because its SP). :) Is a GREAT tech that you could just add in a rainbow energy to it to attack.
    So let me rephrase that
    -2 moonlight stadium
    +1-1(2-2?) Blaziken FB LvX
    +3(4?) Expert Belts
    +1 Pokemon Communication
    +2 Palmer's
    +3-4 Rainbow Energy
    +3-4 Super Scoop ups (optional... but for picking up damaged pokes)
    +3-4 Warp Points (optional... but for switching out blaziken or starters OR unfavorable matchups on their side.)

    Good deck theory though :) I'm making a similar deck though :) (check out my threads if you WANT to look at it. :p it's this with no leafeon, and blaziken and infernape)

    Also, You may want to think of your starter choice... I'd go with Jirachi because you 1) have a high Supporter count. 2) have ALL stage 1's... 3) it has free retreat.
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2011
  13. I don't have any blaziken fbs or blaziken fb X. The nearest league is 30 min. away which is too far for me.
  14. UkeleleMilo

    UkeleleMilo New Member

    Yeah... that's my problem too... lol. It was just a redshark deck/theory deck :)
    But, i think it would be WELL worth going to leage (the nearest league for me is 45 min... i haven't been but to the CoL prerelease tourney and want to go SOOON.)
  15. If this deck is worth it I might go. If it is just another good but too flawed for awesomeness deck like almost every other, then I might try earning money then ebay.

    on topic:

    you mentioned jirachi as a good starter. Isn't sableye a good starter? overconfidence lets you go first and impersonate gives you an advantage at the beginning. maybe I should add more though. I also don't have any sableye, which is a problem.
  16. X_empoleon_X

    X_empoleon_X New Member

    This is why you download redshark, so you can get an idea of how well this deck works. Though honestly the whole Gliscor lvX and Leafeon UD idea is all too situational and wouldn;t work all of the time: you level up Gliscor lvX use its power and retreat to Leafeon UD to deal 100 (+10 from poison). You don't play any Seeker or Super Scoop Up to keep this going consistently meaning you're just relying on Donphan prime to clean up, but in this case why not just focus on Donphan Prime being the center of this deck. It can deal 60 from T2 (T1, but your deck doesn't run BTS or Rare Candy) your bad match-up would be G-dos and DialgaChomp - G-Dos hits you for weakness and resists you and Dialgachomp can tank you and heal off all the damage and cancels your body, but this is why we have techs. It would also work much more consistently than your current idea.

    You can't be going to regionals with a theorymon deck (looks good on paper but without any testing it's actual preformance could be poor) and expect to do well. Also Moonlight Stadium is illegal for modified play (was released in Great Encounters)

    Also, if you need certain cards but can't obtain them, then i think it would be in your best interests to attend the league (30mins away isn't that bad, most people would be happy to live 30 minutes away from a league, others have to travel 1 hour+ to get to a league) playing with an incomplete deck will just lower your chances and make the deck function badly (speaks from experience)
  17. I downloaded redshark, but that was 2 or 3 years ago. I can't figure out how to download the newest version.

    ---------- Post added 03/23/2011 at 07:18 AM ----------

    actually, leafeon would do 150 because first you evolve gligar, use burning poison, burn them. next turn you level up, use shoot poison, retreat, bring up leafeon, miasma wind for 150 +burn and poison. Retreat, bring up gliscor lv. x, use burning poison, go back to the hand. bring up your other gliscor lv. x that you hopefully have, use shoot poison, retreat...
  18. Templarion

    Templarion Member

    I'ts a good idea with Gliscor LvX/ Leafeon UD but can add a blaziken PT for ensure to do 150 and try to get seeker or super scoop up for gliscor i recomend a 3-1 Gliscor LvX por rinse and repeat.... and fix your trainer engine you can be more faster than this
  19. gliscor's burning poison lets him go back to your hand, so why use super scoop up? How should I fix my trainer engine?
  20. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    On the deck as is:

    -3-3 Donphan
    -2 Sableye
    +1 Gligar
    +2-2 Leafeon
    Also, remove POVs for BTS.
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