Have no fear, Kingdra is here!

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by KazamBolt, Sep 15, 2007.

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  1. KazamBolt

    KazamBolt Active Member

    I am probably playing this at Battle Roads.


    4 Horsea d
    2 Seadra d
    4 Kingdra ex d
    2 Spearow
    2 Fearow d
    3 Holon's Castform
    1 Shellder
    1 Cloyster

    3 PETM
    2 Steven's
    2 TGW
    3 Mentor
    3 Castaway
    3 Windstorm
    3 Rare Candy
    1 Night Maintenance
    2 Lake Boundary
    3 Buffer Piece
    1 Crystal Shard
    1 Strength Charm

    7 Fighting
    4 d Rainbow
    3 Cyclone

    Strategy: Kingdra just owns. Period.

    Just kidding. Kingdra is really good. It has like a built in Metal for every Kingdra on the field. Combined with Buffer Piece, you have a BEAST. OHKOs Electivire and absolutly pwns Mario. Fearow and Altaria are GREAT supporters. They search and attach. With that and my HEAVENLY supporter line, I usually get out a T3-5 attacking Kingdra
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2007
  2. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    I'm a big fan of Holon Lake as your stadium. It could give you more speed! You might want more Night Maintenance as each time you loose a Kingdra, you loose defence!! Fearow will work great for rebuilding a fallen Kingdra.
  3. therage

    therage New Member

    imo altaria is not needed.

    also,use 2 crystal beach,1 battle frontier as your gym's
  4. Skull Bash

    Skull Bash New Member

    You said it yourself. You're USUALLY able to get a Kingdra attacking by T3-T5. If you get a Kingdra out T5, chances are it's either dead or close to dying. Take out Cloyster. Any deck that snipes the bench runs Cessation, so it's useless, even if you have windstorm. 4 Kingdra EX is needed. The swarm is the point of the whole deck. Altaria EX D isn't really needed. Kingdra's first attack is energy acceleration enough. Up the mentor, and why aren't you using Castform as a starter? Right now you have too many things you're going to start with that you don't want(Swablu, Shellder, Spearow) you need a starter.
  5. therage

    therage New Member

    pinsir d is a better starter.
    casty WILL get donked.
  6. Skull Bash

    Skull Bash New Member

    No it isn't. Getting more cards to set up multiple Kingdra > A staller that won't do much until it's killed.
  7. KazamBolt

    KazamBolt Active Member

    Pinsir IS a better starter. All of my basics aren't delta. Altaria is a very good tech that I will probably be knocking down to a 1-1. Cloyster is very needed here. I already said that it saves my bench since I can't lose very many prizes depending on an ex. Windstorm takes CCs off of pokemon that I can't OHKO with Kingdra. So, it does help. I also said NOT to tell me to take out Cloyster. And Spearow as an unwanted starter? Better than other things. Fighting resistance, 1 colorless to draw a card, seems like a fairly good starter to me. So, Pinsir doesn't get more cards to build up multiple Kingdra ex? Isn't that it's job? I ALSO said that I WILL be adding another Kingdra ex d once I get one. It seems like you didn't read my entire thread. What a surprise... :nonono:

    Everyone else:
    Crystal Beach seems like a good stadium. I would need to get 1-2 though.
  8. Black_jirachi

    Black_jirachi New Member

    Hey, I think I have a very good Kingdra list, you can look at it for inspiration:

    4-3-4 Kingdra EX
    1-1 Altaria EX d
    1-1 Fearow d--You need only one really
    4 Pinsir d

    I play no Cloyster beacuse I see no bench damage as of now. This will maybe change later when we get a DP2 included format


    4 Mentor
    2 Adventurer
    3 Castaway
    2 Copycat
    2 Team Galactic Wager
    3 Rare Candy
    2 Strenght Charm
    4 Buffer Piece
    3 Windstorm
    1 Night Maintenance
    1 TSD

    Probably changing to just 2 TSD^^


    10 Fighting
    4 D rainbow energy.

  9. MrMeches

    MrMeches New Member

    2 Words... Del---Catty!

    2-2 Delcatty would be helpful as it will speed up your draw, and you can discard fo rthe Recycling of the Energy cards!! It is actually nice in here and jst go with 4-2-4 Kingdra 1-1 Fearow! GL!
  10. Skull Bash

    Skull Bash New Member

    Say what you want, there's no way your list is as good as my friend's who uses Castform and no Cloyster or Altaria. Castform is just better. What if your opponent attaches a Cessation/has less than 5 cards in their hand? My friend has tested Pinsir and it just isn't as good. You can also search out Casty at any time during the battle with Fearow or Mentor, which is a big help because sometimes you will have energy problems. Cloyster might be mildly helpful, but like I said, it brings with it another starter you do not want, and it's not all that useful. Yes, spearow is an unwanted starter. Just because it can collect, doesn't mean it's good. 40 HP and vulnerable to electric. It's not a terrible starter, but it isn't that great, you can deal with that if you start with it. But if you start with Swablu or Shellder, not so much.

    You don't have to get so mad. I offered YOU some help. Stop being a little whiny kid.
  11. shiftrymaster68

    shiftrymaster68 Active Member

    Cloyster d is terrible since everything that hurts your benched Pokemon except Gatr d runs Cess. Crys., nullifying his Body. Kingdra rocks against Gatr anyway, 2HKOing no matter which attack you use first. I think a combo of Casty and Pinsir d could work 3/2 or 3/3 or 4/2. GL!
  12. pichu bros. rox

    pichu bros. rox New Member

    Nice list and Pinsir is better than castform so good choice on that (with all the tgw running around). i would play 4 pinsir and maybe 1 castform. and please take out cloyster... no room...

    again good luck on the deck.
  13. KazamBolt

    KazamBolt Active Member

    I fixed the list. I have a split 2-2 Pinsir-Castform. I also put in the extra Kingdra ex d and took out 1-1 Altaria.
  14. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    ONE Castaway and ONE Scott isn't going to do much...
  15. fieryseraph

    fieryseraph New Member

    *gasp* :eek: Take it back or I'll be forced to judge you unfit to be the founder of team electivire! :eek:

    Just a couple of questions... OHKO's electivire? Huh? Kingras do 80 damage, vire has 100 hps... did I miss something here?

    And as far as pwning mario... don't forget about attacks like brick smash (and flygon's swift!) that get through your protection. :-D So don't get too comfortable there!

    It is a good thing that Kingdra ex has his 2nd attack that removes weakness, or else 'vire would eat him for lunch!

    Anyway, other than the fact that you commited blaspheme in your post, I like the deck. It would be really annoying to play against. :) Let us know how it goes, if you do decide to turn your back on your family. ;-D
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2007
  16. pichu bros. rox

    pichu bros. rox New Member

    weakness... :p
  17. Skull Bash

    Skull Bash New Member

    Nothing you said in that entire post is accurate.

    Yes, you are missing something. Electivire has a weakness..

    And no, Brick Smash and Swift do not get through his body.

    And even if Kingdra's second attack didn't remove weakness, it would probably still beat Electivire, especially because of how inconsistent Vire is.
  18. shiftrymaster68

    shiftrymaster68 Active Member

    In addition to what everyone else said, don't tell someone that they don't know what they're talking about (or commiting blasphemy) until you know what YOU'RE talking about.
  19. fieryseraph

    fieryseraph New Member

    sheesh... it's beat on fieryseraph night, I suppose.

    okay... I missed the weakness. silly me, sorry about that. *bonk self*

    But how do brick smash and swift not get through his body? They both specifically say poke-powers, poke-bodies, effects, etc. Seems like the exact situation these attacks were meant to address. I am still a bit new to this game, so I could be wrong... perhaps a further explanation?

    And skull bash, I would disagree w/your statement about vire being inconsistent. I've been playing it for a while and never had what I would call consistency problems.

    And my post was meant to be a good-natured ribbing of a friend, so let's settle down a little bit here people.
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2007
  20. Black_jirachi

    Black_jirachi New Member

    Swift/Brick Smash etc ignore effects on the defending pokemon(ig.Kingdra EX), but Kingdras body is an effect on the attacking pokemon (Flygon/Machamp etc.)

    It is in the compendium too.

    Hope that clears up
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