Houndoom. Is he playable?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by atomant, Mar 26, 2008.

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  1. atomant

    atomant New Member

    I want to make a Houndoom deck, but I am debating if I should make a deck with straight Houndoom or run him with another line of Pokemon. Listed below are my reasons why I think running Houndoom with or without other Pokemon could help or break the deck.

    If I run straight Houndoom: He is more efficient for a turn two deck, but I mulligan like crazy so I will need to run 4 Wager. Problem with that- Wager is unreliable. So I will need to win Wager to shut my opponent down. I will have various trainers like Celio and Quick ball to help make the deck stay true to its turn two nature.

    If I run Houndoom with some other Pokemon: I think I will get out played by stronger decks like GG and in reality; I don't have a clue who to play Houndoom with. The advantage is- the other Pokemon I play will work with my 4 Multi energy and 4 DRE combo (allows Houndoom to discard those energy to get both effects of Black fire)- and will make my deck mulligan less.

    So what are your thoughts? If you can help me jump start this deck I would greatly appreciate it.

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  2. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    I'd wait till the Japan DP5 Houndoom is out if I were you. Houndoom, as it is now, just isn't worth it. The DP5 Houndoom can do 100 for 2. I believe you had to have less pokemon in play, IIRC.
     
  3. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    The things that I like about doom are that he's fast, resistant to Psychic Lock, has an OK weakness, and the 90 HP.

    What I don't like is that to use him right you pretty much have to build your deck around him. You need the T2 like setup ... but also need to be able to deal with the constant energy discards.
     
  4. Dennis Hawk

    Dennis Hawk New Member

    Houndoom-Blissey then?
     
  5. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    Someone posted a deck like that a while back. Think their list had either Darkrai or Weavile or maybe both too. I was thinking more along the lines of delcatty ex. Maybe a 1-1 tech line or a 2-2/1 Delcatty/Delcatty ex line.
     
  6. TODDakaESTEBAN

    TODDakaESTEBAN New Member

    delcatty goes fine with it but it's an ex so just keep that in mind
     
  7. Chu51595

    Chu51595 New Member

    Add Darkrai and Weavile, they help set u up and Darkrai powers u up. I'd play 1-1 Darkrai/X and 2-2 or 3-3 Weavile(SW).
     
  8. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    Banette or Magmortar?
     
  9. SPARTA

    SPARTA New Member

    If Houndour wasn't so bad, Houndoom would be much better.
    :lol:
     
  10. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    Houndoom can work well on its own. However if your opponent can setup you can't do much with him.
     
  11. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    I just don't know why anyone would opt for houndoom over banette or magmortar as a counter to GG lol.
     
  12. atomant

    atomant New Member

    No one was saying that here. I just like Houndoom and I think he can beat most decks out there. If you read my ideas you would know what I mean by playing Houndoom by himself can be bad.
     
  13. tglilly

    tglilly New Member

    How about typhlosion to get the fire energy back if discarded, also to counter any deck that use special energy....?
     
  14. billbilski

    billbilski New Member

    I've just been playing it straight with a 2-2 line of claydol for mid-late game consistency. In timed swiss rounds you can get wins against mags and G&G if they don't get a perfect start..just flash back to dark slowking for optimal play style :rolleyes:... Top Cut - no way..... Yeah, houndour is really bad.... auto poison would be nice....
     
  15. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    I'm just talking about playing this deck in real life. The metagame is completely dominated by GG. You must either run it or have a deck that will beat it (or... counter it. the two best decks for that are magmortar and banette, hence what I said).
     
  16. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    2-2 gorebyss for magmortar matchup is what i run
    but yeah like ryanvergel said it doesnt stand a chance againts GG
     
  17. SaLaMeNcE Xx

    SaLaMeNcE Xx New Member

    i runned a houndoom deck for regionals here in Norway, and the metagame here is dominated by Gallade. And i got 4th with my houndoom list. And i im playing it with 4-4 Houndoom, 2-2 claydol and Minun. And that list works very well at least for me.
     
  18. aggromaster94

    aggromaster94 New Member

    If you were to run Houndoom with somthing else, consider Delcatty(Doomcatty).
     
  19. atomant

    atomant New Member

    Allright. Thanks for the help.
     
  20. V_For_Vendetta

    V_For_Vendetta New Member

    Why not simply run a Houndoom deck with Cessasion and Absol?
     

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