How exactly does one go about getting a quad or Quint?

Discussion in 'Ask The VG Experts!' started by P_A, Dec 5, 2013.

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  1. P_A

    P_A Active Member

    With all the effort that one goes through to get Championship battle ready, I'm assuming that having as good a foundation in your team as possible is pretty much a given. Can you give a detailed explanation on how to get a team with the best IV's and EV's as possible with Pokemon X and Y? Thanks.
     
  2. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    This Gen is weird. Each Pokemon you get from the FS will have 2 31 Ivs in 2 random stats guaranteed. Of cource you can find better pokemon. A friend of mind caught a Ditto with 4 31s, which I breed from to get my Talonflame. You have to go into breeding in this Gen without everything you knew for a while. Many past Pokemon are bad because they lack the needed egg moves and moves tutored from the last gen.

    What you want to do is find out what you want on your team IF you plan on playing in official tournaments. If you can transfer your trained Pokemon from the last game and have no interest in official tournaments, then just breed the new Pokemon from XY. If you want to play in official tournaments, then think about what Pokemon you want. So far, the most overpowered Mega Pokemon are Mawile, Gengar and Kangaskang. If you want a Mega, go with one of those. Another really good Pokemon choice is Goodra who has a total of 600 based stats. It special defense base state is 150 and with a calm nature with 252 EVs, it will push 438 in that stat. Its special attack base stat is 110. its a very good tank and contends for the Dragonite slot.

    A really powerful sweeper is Aegislash. Depending on its form, it will either have base 150 in attack and special attack or defense and special defense. Its other base stats are 50. If you can get a good swords dance in, it can sweep with Shadow Sneak. It is also a really good user of the item Weakness Policy, which increases it attack and special attack 2 stages if hit with a super effective move.

    Each Pokemon needs to have a role to play. You need a handful of sweeper, and walls. You also need to find out what format you're playing in. Singles, doubles, etc. Once you find out what you want on your team, trade with people who have the Pokemon you are looking for or dittos so you can breed from them or ask them to do it for you.
     
  3. Benzo

    Benzo Front Page News Editor<br>Forum Moderator

    @ P_A

    You mean like a "bracket" guide?

    Like:

    mother A with father A = baby A

    baby A with baby B breed from ditto mom and father C

    that "bracket"?
     
  4. Bigbowlr1037

    Bigbowlr1037 New Member

    1) Catch a lot of dittos.
    2) mark all the perfect stats on dittos
    3) grab a ditto and poke u want to breed
    4) put them in the daycare
    5) get and hatch eggs
    6) check eggs stats and mark them
    7) replace parent with a baby who has better stats.
    Repeat steps 5-7 till the judge says you have the 5 right stat
     
  5. P_A

    P_A Active Member

    Thank you for your post vaporeon. It was actually very helpful, even though it didn't fully answer my question.

    Benzo, I wasn't expecting a blow by blow description of what to do, nor do I really know what you mean by a "bracket guide", since I've never tried this before. I just wanted to have an outline of the steps needed, as was posted by Bigbowlr. However, from what I've read from other threads, there are some items you can have your pokemon hold when breeding to maximize certain things. Can you add to Bigbowlr's comment to help people get the best individual pokemon for their teams as possible? If so, then this will help raise the general competitive level of those of us here who frequent the gym.

    Edit: Benzo, here's a quote from you that details more of what I'd like to see:

    "Breed with SZ Pokémon, use the Destiny Knot and Power Bracelets when breeding. Toss in the Everstone. < definitely would help if you could explain how those help in the breeding process.

    Find hordes to boost the EV's obtained when EV training.

    Use Pokerus (it is out there, finding a person who has it and will trade a Pokie with it is rather easy) < Already got that, so training the pokes up will be easier, but has nothing to do with the breeding process right?

    You only need to raise a Pokémon to level 50- if you EV it at level 1 using all the newer methods and techs- you will have a battle worthy Pokémon in less time you think.

    .....

    I should write up an article on how to bust out a tourney worthy Pokémon in no time with all the new mechs and techs in the game............."

    < Here's your chance! You don't have to go to all the trouble to post everything here in this thread - point form will do. One thing you might mention is about ways to hatch pokemon faster. I know using O-powers will help, but like in other games aren't there pokemon that you can have in your team that reduce the amount of steps you need to hatch eggs? Wasn't one of the pokemon Larvesta or Volcarona? My memory is bad.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2013
  6. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    I outlined the basics of chain breeding starting with nothing but Safari Pokemon in another thread, perhaps it'll help you some in getting Quad/Quint IV Pokemon:

    Also worth noting is any "true" baby Pokemon you can catch in the wild (for example Riolu on Rt 22) will have three 31 IVs, so once you evolve them, they make good breeding partners in that egg group.

    To answer your other question, Flame Body is the ability you're thinking of for faster egg hatching. Volcarona was great last gen since it had Flame Body and could learn Fly (so you only needed 1 Pokemon in your team to hatch eggs fast and get to the IV checker from wherever you happen to be at), but Fletchinder/Talonflame is better this generation since it has Flame Body, can learn Fly, and you don't have to level it to 65 to evolve it.
     
  7. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    What do you mean by "true" baby. Does Eevee count for that as well because I'd love to catch some Eevees like that.
     
  8. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    From what I've gathered, it refers to "baby" Pokemon that cannot breed. So it would be things like your Riolus, Azurills, Smoochum, etc, but not normal Basic Pokemon like Eevee. Only some of them can be found in the wild or through horde encounters, the three I've listed are wild in XY, but never bothered checking for more.
     
  9. Benzo

    Benzo Front Page News Editor<br>Forum Moderator

    On breeding for quint's- it took me 7 eggs to get a quint using FS Pokies. Bracket breeding with the Destiny Knot and a power item makes for quick and easy pokies.
     
  10. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    Thats good to know. I can pass that to my friend who is a avid Lucario fan.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I was having issues passing the IVs to my Talonflame. I managed to get a quad female with Gale Wings. I have a perfect male Pidgeot on my black 2 that I'll use to get a quint or flawless Talonflame with.
     
  11. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    How do you "Mark" them?

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
     
  12. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    On a pokemon's page, there are 6 symbols. You turn them on for the stats. Click a pokemon and select "mark" then it brings up the symbols. For example, if a poke has a 31 in HP, defense and speed, you'll click the first one, the third on and the sixth one. So when people see the pokemon, if you have the IVs marked, they will know where the 31s are.
     
  13. Benzo

    Benzo Front Page News Editor<br>Forum Moderator

  14. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    Are you sure? I could have sworn that those symbols had to do with what generation of Pokemon it is. For example, for this season you can only use Pokemon from x and y which is the blue Pentagon.

    I'll double check tonight and also look for the marking option. Thank you!
     
  15. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    That's a different symbol. When you open up the PC and view the summary page, you can assign symbols from there to be whatever you want.
     
  16. Benzo

    Benzo Front Page News Editor<br>Forum Moderator

    I think from here on out- each new version including X/Y will have a symbol of it's own like the blue pentagon.
    This is a way to "track/trace" Pokémon from each game, showing that the Pokémon's history is more legit in it's origin.
    Keep in mind I said "think"--

    I wonder if there will be a symbol for transferred in from B/W/BW2 via the bank/transfer system........ perhaps not though since a Region symbol (X/Y blue pentagon as the example here) has not been created for past Regions. (Unless GameFreak did implement a Region one for transferred in from Unova)
     

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