ColdCoates90
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No Prime, its been ruled that Machamp would NOT block the damage from Blaziken Ex's Volcanic Ash. Has anyone noticed that the creator of this deck isn't posting here?Prime said:
I've got a Blaze EX Counter!
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GodTrainer
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Moltres423 said:
WELL LET ME GUESS WHY!!!!
its becuase of people like superNOTHING and gradmaWHO? being completely mean and rude to people! ive never heard of this grandmaperson b4, but i know that superBigwoop has a good history of flaming other peoples decks and ideas. If i were this person there is know way i would reply to this post, infact, depending on this persons age, you flamers might have even made him cry
STOP BEING SO HARSH
THIS ISNT AN ADULT SITE
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST KIDS
RESPECT OTHER PEOPLES CREATIVE IDEAS
AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO REPLY TO A DECK FIX!!!!! KEY WORK FIX!!!!!
ONCE AGAIN FIX NOT FLAME BUT FIX
then do so with advice on how to make the deck better
ALL i HAVE TO SAY IS MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOLES
Articjedi
Active Member
Creative or not, he claimed this was a blazi ex counter. This deck in almost no way counts as a blazi ex counter. It simply won't work. Wishcash sucks against blaziken decks. So you stop blazi ex from damaging you, it takes four turns to build, two if you run boost, and even if you get off the attack, it just retreats and brings up rayquaza or amphy or some other pokemon to destroy it.
As far as being a deck though, put in some multi to smooth your energy.
As far as being a deck though, put in some multi to smooth your energy.
GodTrainer
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Articjedi said:
true BUT
HES..................A.......................KID
give him some slack, he probably read the wishcach card and was like "o cool this MIGHT have a chance against that deck that i got distroyed by last week"
i dont care who you are, when you read wishcach for the first time THE THOUGHT HOWEVER, BREIF OF A TIME IT WAS, ...DID DID DID go through your mind that IT MIGHT beable to counter blazeEX
if someone clames that that thoought NEVER went through there mind then they are LIERS! FLAT OUT!
some people realize it sooner then others, i even had a wobby/wishcach/shednija deck idea that i thought might work, and guess what IT DID i play tested it and it went something like 12-8 against blazeEX.....BUT GOT DISTROYED BY ANYTHING ELSE....so yea droped that deck FAST
again just give him some slack
there are many ways to say something
tact is the key work tact
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SuperWooper
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I'm not being that harsh. At least I'm trying to help him play something different instead of boosting my ego like Tennis Emperor. He makes direct attacks on decks and people. You really shouldn't be telling ME what to do, I don't listen to those of you who make Whishcash/Shedinja decks. I'm betting you also made Kory feel real good when you said he was just a kid. Go here:
SKYRIDGE MACHAMP DOES NOT STOP BLAZE!
Sorry, but I'm telling the truth. The original deck's purpose was to stop Blaziken EX. It does the opposite. It gets run over by a good Blaziken ex deck. It's not like I'll coat everything I say with SUGAR AND SAY DECKS THAT WON'T WORK ARE GOOD! I'm not a liar. Of course, knowing you, GodTrainer, you're liable to call me noob or something. The deck won't work in a competitive enviornment.
As for you thinking you dissed me bad, sorry, you didn't. If other people think I'm less of a person now, fine. I really don't care what they think about how good or bad I am, it doesn't affect me one way or another. But I'm NOT LESS OF A TRAINER. Lay off insulting me and Joner, we didn't think the deck was very good, AND YOU'RE CALLING US NAMES, WHICH WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD US NOT TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Talk about hypocracy.......(did I spell that right?)
Wooper
SKYRIDGE MACHAMP DOES NOT STOP BLAZE!
Sorry, but I'm telling the truth. The original deck's purpose was to stop Blaziken EX. It does the opposite. It gets run over by a good Blaziken ex deck. It's not like I'll coat everything I say with SUGAR AND SAY DECKS THAT WON'T WORK ARE GOOD! I'm not a liar. Of course, knowing you, GodTrainer, you're liable to call me noob or something. The deck won't work in a competitive enviornment.
As for you thinking you dissed me bad, sorry, you didn't. If other people think I'm less of a person now, fine. I really don't care what they think about how good or bad I am, it doesn't affect me one way or another. But I'm NOT LESS OF A TRAINER. Lay off insulting me and Joner, we didn't think the deck was very good, AND YOU'RE CALLING US NAMES, WHICH WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD US NOT TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Talk about hypocracy.......(did I spell that right?)
Wooper
the black guy
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Like Rodney King said cant we all just get alongundefined
Like Rodney King said cant we all just get alongundefined
TheNoobKiller said:
Noob = from new boy, means novice, someone who is new to a group, trade or skill
Yes, there is a good name for a member of this board, someone who kills off new players and people who are new to the game. That is truly what we need... well, 'my gang only' is what this board will become if the members (not just the mods) let a few off-topic comments become a trash & point gang. So, you get a piece of my mind, but it isn't just for you.
Have a FIX or SUGGESTION for the deck that isn't the level of
'ha ha you stink, I rule, hey joe you sure showed this noob'
and write it up. Otherwise, for those members of the weak minded set 'move along, these are not the droids we're looking for'. Hit your back button and read the sticky post at the top of this forum. You're off topic. I am not, I am policing YOU and some others.
It isn't just you 'Mr/Ms New-to-the-game killer', but I address a lot of people that have had a high volume of posts in the 'Deck HELP and STRATEGY' Forum that are not HELP, not STRATEGY, and not about a DECK.
Some of you are smart enough to call a mod to lock a thread when a new member doesn't know the technical definition of 'advertising' on this board...are you smart enough to know the definition of what this board is all about? A hint, it isn't all about you and how good you are and what deck you or your pal thought of... I address all of you who are making rude comments to new players posting for help.
This board has a great feature that improves on the old PokéGym. Its called ignore. I use it for people that wont stop posting bushels and bushels of nonsense or starting fights. You can use it for me. You can use it for new players that post for help with decks you'd normally make fun of. I never tell someone on any board that I'm ignoring them, but as an exception, to educate you and your fellow noobkillers about this feature, I'm telling you that I'm going to ignore your posts ... listen for the sound... if you can't be constructive, use ignore rather than making fun of new players. What's in it for you, you ask? That way you have more people in the game and your glory can continue to shine.
'be constructive, silent or use ignore'
wait for it ...
<plonk>!
Now. about the deck:
For this deck to have a chance it needs to be faster. Rip out the trainers, then:
4 TV Reporter
4 Oracle
4 Rare Candy
3 PETM
and go from there.
I also recommend, as someone else said, double rainbow. Its not for drag off, but to jumpstart Hurricane Punch.
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SuperWooper
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So if I don't think a deck is good, I should just not post? Is that it? Like Joner said, I could be a lot meaner than I am. I think I'm being relatively level-headed about this and I never trashed the deck and said it wasn't good.
I SAID IT WOULDN'T WIN.
I SAID IT WOULDN'T WIN.
coolhedgie
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Superwooper, no offense, but you need to snip
Have some faith in these rogue decks; this one probably won't work, but if people encouraged the guy who thought of it instead of dissing and calling him a n00b, then that deck could evolve and become something stronger. I just don't like people who diss other people's decks. That simply shows that they are either jealous or antagonistic and I am deeply peeved by both. Go play an archetype like Blaze wooper, and get metagamed by everything in site and have this kid's rogue win. ;/
Edited: You know abbreviations for words not allowed also is not allowed.
Have some faith in these rogue decks; this one probably won't work, but if people encouraged the guy who thought of it instead of dissing and calling him a n00b, then that deck could evolve and become something stronger. I just don't like people who diss other people's decks. That simply shows that they are either jealous or antagonistic and I am deeply peeved by both. Go play an archetype like Blaze wooper, and get metagamed by everything in site and have this kid's rogue win. ;/
Edited: You know abbreviations for words not allowed also is not allowed.
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SuperWooper
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I don't play Blaziken, I don't have the cash. )_(coolhedgie said:
I never called him a noob.
I said the deck wouldn't win.
I didn't dissed the deck.
Just pointed out that it wouldn't win.
If he wants to become a better player, he needs to learn how to make decks that will win.
I'm not jealous.
Antagonistic? 12 letters = too long.
Never called him a noob.
Pointing out a deck won't win isn't dissing the person or the deck.
It's giving advice. It will loose to all Blaziken variants with players of a decent amount of skill.
You know all that, and I know all that, CoolHedgie and GodTrainer.
So why the insults?
Maybe because YOU'RE jealous?
JK.
Wooper
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lookinforwailordex
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well you guys it has a chnace yes but still you shouldnt say somethign bad about a deck if you havt seen it played
lookinforwailordex said:
Do you have a suggestion to improve the deck? All further comments about other stuff should probably stay away or the thread will get locked.
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Articjedi
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the more sympathetic people on this board are right.
Okay to help the deck take bulba's trainer engine, find room for double rainbow, since it'll let you attack with hurricane punch turn three. You could also try something crazy like juggler, since you probably don't want to change your hand if you get a rare candy or machamp in it. DROP WISHCASH!!! Then, you can pick your targets early in the game and hopefully gain some board advantage, maybe you can ko a skitty or something. This might turn out to be something similar to a salamence deck. Multi would also help, as maybe a fourth wobby, because you are going to have a lot of problems beating gardy.
Okay to help the deck take bulba's trainer engine, find room for double rainbow, since it'll let you attack with hurricane punch turn three. You could also try something crazy like juggler, since you probably don't want to change your hand if you get a rare candy or machamp in it. DROP WISHCASH!!! Then, you can pick your targets early in the game and hopefully gain some board advantage, maybe you can ko a skitty or something. This might turn out to be something similar to a salamence deck. Multi would also help, as maybe a fourth wobby, because you are going to have a lot of problems beating gardy.
lookinforwailordex
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bulbasnore said:
i think he should at least take one line barboch and whiscash for like tv.reporter and double rainbow
maybe that warp point to he only has 1 he should take it for something maybe another wobb or double rainbow
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SuperWooper
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korythatsrightmare said:
Okay, we've established that Machamp can be hurt by Blaziken ex. I'm going to fix this deck 'cuz you're all ticked at me for saying it won't win. So let's start from scratch, shall we?
Pokemon: We'll keep the Immunity Machamp line, Machamp can't be paralyzed, so this deck PWNS Amphy if set up fast enough and played correctly. You're going to want to play 3-3-3 Machamp.
NO DUNSPARCE IN AN EON DECK?
PROBLEM!Add four sparce, and DROP THE WHISCASH LINE! Add in a 2/2 Wailord line and a 2/2 Furret line. It's like Aggron ex!
Drop a Wobbo to make the pokemon a nice even 23. Wait. That's odd. O_OEnergy: No way this will work, the types are too jumbled. Let's go 4 Fighting, 4 Water, 3 Rainbow, 3 DRE, 3 Boost. Furret will help find the energies, so let's move on. 17 Energies leaves room for 20 trainers.
Trainers: 4 Reporter 4 POR to start. NEED 'EM. 2 Warp Point then, so ten spots left. 2 Oracle, just because we can and they're good for finding tECh. A volunteers is a definite yes. 7 Sparces...er...spaces left. 2 PETM, sure. Ah...3 Potion 2 Oran? Yeah that's about right.
New list:
Pokemon: 23
3 Machop
3 Machoke
3 Machamp
2 Wailmer
2 Wailord
2 Sentret
2 Furret
4 Dunsparce
2 Wobbuffet
Energy: 17
4 Fighting
4 Water
3 Rainbow
3 DRE
3 Boost
Trainers: 20
4 POR
4 Reporter
2 Oracle
2 PETM
1 Volunteers
3 Potion
2 Oran
2 Warp Point
Sorry if I offended anybody, I honestly was trying to steer the poster of this thread towards a different deck, because the original wouldn't win. I wasn't putting anybody down, like GodTrainer was. Talk about hypocracy...
Wooper
GodTrainer
Member
SuperWooper said:Okay, we've established that Machamp can be hurt by Blaziken ex. I'm going to fix this deck 'cuz you're all ticked at me for saying it won't win. So let's start from scratch, shall we?
Pokemon: We'll keep the Immunity Machamp line, Machamp can't be paralyzed, so this deck PWNS Amphy if set up fast enough and played correctly. You're going to want to play 3-3-3 Machamp.
NO DUNSPARCE IN AN EON DECK?
Add four sparce, and DROP THE WHISCASH LINE! Add in a 2/2 Wailord line and a 2/2 Furret line. It's like Aggron ex!
Energy: No way this will work, the types are too jumbled. Let's go 4 Fighting, 4 Water, 3 Rainbow, 3 DRE, 3 Boost. Furret will help find the energies, so let's move on. 17 Energies leaves room for 20 trainers.
Trainers: 4 Reporter 4 POR to start. NEED 'EM. 2 Warp Point then, so ten spots left. 2 Oracle, just because we can and they're good for finding tECh. A volunteers is a definite yes. 7 Sparces...er...spaces left. 2 PETM, sure. Ah...3 Potion 2 Oran? Yeah that's about right.
New list:
Pokemon: 23
3 Machop
3 Machoke
3 Machamp
2 Wailmer
2 Wailord
2 Sentret
2 Furret
4 Dunsparce
2 Wobbuffet
Energy: 17
4 Fighting
4 Water
3 Rainbow
3 DRE
3 Boost
Trainers: 20
4 POR
4 Reporter
2 Oracle
2 PETM
1 Volunteers
3 Potion
2 Oran
2 Warp Point
Sorry if I offended anybody, I honestly was trying to steer the poster of this thread towards a different deck, because the original wouldn't win. I wasn't putting anybody down, like GodTrainer was. Talk about hypocracy...
Wooper
ok, wooper see, first of all the only peroson i was putting down was you and ONLY cause you were doing it to other people (I CANT STAND BULLIES!!!!!!!!!!! not saying you are a complete bully.) i WILL ALWAYS stick up for people who dont want (or cant) stick up for them selves.
im not going to flame anymore now, or use any quotes to throw back what people said in there face.
that fix you gave above IS REALLY REALLY GOOD
thats all i was saying, just fix the guys deck, tweek it add/drop pokemon add/drop, change trainers
i dont hate you wooper, just lay off some of these newer people and help there decks like you did here. add staples (like dunsparce lol GOD who would of ever thougth a year ago we would be saying that
) people can play red face paint decks and be realy good with them, ive seen it happon, ive won MANY torneys with TONS of red face paint decks, roughe decks are funso we cool wooper? i dont like to hold grudes for a long time, so why dont you say we just squash all this?
on a side note. if you REALY want to have some fun and be considered LEET (or 1337) do the following
build an archytype deck
build your own red face paint style deck
go to a torny
enter with your red face paint deck
play all your matches with your ARCHYTYPE deck layed out for your opponent to see next to you
and actually use the red face paint deck
that way you prove to everone that you know (and can construct) an archtype deck (thus proving your not a noob) and at the same time haveing fun, and showing people the power of red face paint
Physics Squirrel
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Woop, are you sure about the Oracles? You are likely to be using Furret's power quite often, and Oracle will tie up your ability to do so. I'd take out the two Oracles for two Birches, since your hand will be next to nothing from Furret. Also, you played the Orans and stuff with Aggy ex, but without metal energy, they don't go as far (although I guess they're only for Wailord). But since you'll be boosting Wailord. I'd probably play something like 3 Oran and 2 Nurse instead.
If only they gave us Gold Berry...
If only they gave us Gold Berry...
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