Kingdra ex delta in the current format.

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  1. Jangrafess

    Jangrafess New Member


    I've not been in the game for a few months (nine?) and Kingdra is what I used to use, and use quite well. At my regionals it was solid as ever, but couldn't do a thing against Gardevoir/Gallade. It beat Electivire, Banette and Magmortar a high percentage of the time. This could, of course, be sheer dumb luck, especially considering as my deck list looks highly suspect. (I added the newer cards in on the day of the tournament after borrowing them from mates.)

    What I want to know is if there's a way of making the deck sturdier, and if there's a good tech against Gallade. I currently use Unown G, which works for a turn or two at most. It's not that effective really.

    Here's the list:


    4-2-4 Kingdra ex d. (Sleepy Ball Horsea and Smokescreen Seadra.)
    2 Rayquaza ex d.
    1 Mew *
    1-1 Claydol GE
    3 Holon's Castform.
    1-1 Cloyster d
    2 Unown G


    2 Scott
    2 Oak's Visit
    2 Castaway
    3 Bebe's Search
    2 Holon Mentor
    1 Prof Rowan


    4 Rare Candy
    3 Leftovers
    1 Night Maintenance
    2 Dual Ball

    3 Holon Legacy
    1 Battle Frontier


    6 Fighting
    4 Delta Rainbow
    2 Lightning

    Thank you in advance for any help. (NB. Having been out of the game I may need to be told what some cards do.)
  2. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    Make your Pokemon line something like this:
    4-2-4 Kingdra EX δ
    2-1-2 Meganium δ
    2-2 Claydol
    2 Unown G
    2 Holons Castform
    4 Pachirisu/Phione/Pinser δ
    The first (Pachirisu) gets you 3 basic for 1 energy, the second (Phione) evolves one of your bench for 1 energy.
    Or to save space, you could just use 4 Holons Castform as your starter, but that might not provide you a sure enough start, and it would make it a bit harder to draw with Claydol.

    As for Trainers you'll probably want something like:
    4 Rare Candy
    3 Roseannes Research
    2 Castaway
    2 Buffer Piece
    4 Bebe's Search
    3 Steven's Advice
    1 Night Maintenance

    Energy would be something like:
    4 Boost
    10 Fighting

    I think that adds up to be 60 cards, lol.

    Now after typing this list I want to play Kingdra again! lol.
    Good luck with it!
  3. Jangrafess

    Jangrafess New Member


    Just a few questions - is Cloyster d not somewhat necessary to avoid bench damage from Magmortar and Empoleon? Would it make sense to play a combination of Pachirisu and Phione? How necessary is Buffer Piece? I've found that Leftovers can be very useful -- but this is based on one tournament: am I wrong?
  4. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    Cloyser δ would be very handy against those match ups indeed, but the list i was posting was for a more consistent build. If you wanted to you could easily tweak it a bit for the Cloyster δ, such as taking out a 1-1 line of Claydol. So if you wanted to do that I think it would still work well, it would just be a tad harder to get out Claydol on occasion.

    And yes, it would make plenty of sense to play Pachirisu and Phione together. something like 3 Pachi and 1 Phione would work.
    And about Buffer vs. Leaftovers, I think thats more up to preferance. I personally like Buffer Piece better because it will reduce the 20 right there, but Leaftovers could do very well too. So you can chose which you like better there, I myself am just more partial to Buffer Piece, lol.
  5. revdjweb

    revdjweb New Member

    this deck just begs for pinsir d. i would run something like the following:

    3-2-3 kingdra ex
    2-2 claydol
    4 pinsir d
    2 unown g
    1 holon castform (searchable with mentor)
    19 total pokemon

    4 rare candy
    3 holon mentor
    4 professor rowan
    3 master ball
    3 dusk ball
    3 pokedex
    3 pokenav
    3 buffer piece
    1 switch
    1 night maintenance
    28 total trainers

    13 fighting energy
  6. Alazor

    Alazor Active Member

    Couldn't this deck play Unown G and Crystal Beach against Gallade? That way, it would be harder for them to attack. And you don't have to play both at once, just waste away their Windstorms.
  7. Jangrafess

    Jangrafess New Member

    This sounds good to me. I think I will be playing a 1-1 Cloyster line. (I've also only got one Claydol, which limits me somewhat! I have the other cards though.) I'll practice the deck with both Buffer Piece and Leftovers. Once again, thanks for your help -- really appreciate it.

    Sorry, I don't really like the look of this. 3 Kingdra ex has never done it for me -- I like four, even if I won't be playing them all. And four Pinsir, despite there being a smaller number of delta pokémon in the deck also seems a little odd. Consistent starts, perhaps, but odd nevertheless. I'm also not a fan of the singular Holon's Castform. Bleh, sorry. Not a fan.

    This is true. If I'm not using Castforms. I'll think about this.
  8. The Machampion

    The Machampion New Member

    Hey Micheal What Happened To Ure Emerelda Acount??

    I Still HAve Ure Electrovire
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