Kingdra ex

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by drmario, Aug 7, 2007.

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  1. drmario

    drmario New Member

    Pokemon (19)

    4 Horsea (sleepy ball)
    3 Seadra (smokescreen)
    4 Kingdra ex

    2-2 Fearow

    2-2 Altaria ex

    1 Vaporeon*

    Trainers (27)

    3 Copycat
    2 Steven’s Advice
    3 Castaway
    1 Scott
    3 Bebe’s Search
    2 Holon Mentor
    2 Battle Frontier
    2 Buffer Piece
    3 Strength Charm
    3 Rare Candy
    1 Team Galacticas Bet
    1 Night Maintenance


    Energies (14)

    12 Fighting
    2 Cyclone

    Update! Now with Altaria ex. The problem with altario though is that now cessation crystals become a problem.
    This deck is HP-on so please don't suggest cards that will not be legal next year. Any suggestions for this deck are welcomed. BTW this deck OWNS empoleon, as long as you get a couple of kingdra's in play.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2007
  2. fragnito

    fragnito New Member

    there isnt much synergy between kingdra ex and lucario
    kingdra needs castform to be fast and usually works best as a loner with techs
     
  3. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    -2 Plus Power
    +2 Strength Cnarm

    This would be better to do since you play 3 Castaway. Plus Power isn't a tool so I say charm is better.
     
  4. master1116

    master1116 New Member

    plus power is stackable. i say play 1 of each
     
  5. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    Yeah, I know but what are the odds of having 2 in your hand to stack if there are only going to be two in the deck? That is my point.
     
  6. drmario

    drmario New Member

    If you mean castform as a start, that doesn't really work anymore. All the lucario decks will destroy it. As to the synergy between kingdra ex and lucario, what would a better combo be? I do not want to do it with meganium. How about kingdra ex with fearow CG and something else?
     
  7. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    No synergy at all... :nonono:

    Take out Lucario, add 2-2 Fearow and 2-2 Altaria ex.
     
  8. drmario

    drmario New Member


    Updated. I took out lucario added fearow and altaria ex. Will kingdra be strong enough by itself though?
     
  9. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Yes, it is pretty strong. I play it myself.

    Try to add Castform or Pinsir d'.
    Take out a Candy, add one more Seadra.
    Take out PlusPower, add Str. Charm instead of it.
     
  10. drmario

    drmario New Member

    Castform to take back energies, or to use as a starter? The other problem with Kingdra is when you come across pokemon that can OKHO it. In testing it will out-speed decks like feraligatr and then they finally get a gatr set up and OKHO your kingdra. Then you put out another one and they do the same thing.
     
  11. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Both.
    Gatr can't do 160-190 per turn. Not without Lass.

    Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

    You should also play 3-4 Windstorm.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2007
  12. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    ^ Actualy, in my testings, yes my gatr can give out that much dmg. a turn, and beats kingdra.
     
  13. drmario

    drmario New Member

    What should come out for the windstorms?
     
  14. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    EVERY turn? I don't believe you..
     
  15. drmario

    drmario New Member

    Any idea how to fit in windstorms?
     
  16. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Drop a Battle Frontier...?

    On top of my head, here's my personal list:

    24 Pokemon

    3 Castform
    1 Pinsir d'

    4-3-4-1 Kindra ex/d'

    2-2 Fearow d'

    2-2 Altaria ex d'

    24 Trainers

    2 Copycat
    2 Adventurer
    4 PETM
    4 Mentor
    2 Castaway
    1 Str. Charm
    2 Buffer Piece
    2 Crystal shard
    2 windstorm
    3 Battle Frontier

    12 NRGs

    12 Fighting

    I don't think this is my exact list (since it's just from top of my had), but it looks pretty much like this.
    It still needs some fixes though (more windstorm, night maintenance etc.)
     
  17. drmario

    drmario New Member

    Windstorms are the main thing I can't figure out how to get in. I think the crystal shards are a good idea, because a lot of people are posting salamence decks, and a 3 hit KO to salamence is not a good thing. Use Bebe's instead of PETM you can search basic.
     
  18. Epyon0015

    Epyon0015 New Member

    You should Play Kingdra Swarm

    25 Pokemon
    4 Horsea d (Sleepy Ball)
    3 Seadra d (Smokescreen)
    4 Kingdra d Ex
    2 Kingdra d
    3 Natu d
    3 Xatu d
    2 Pinser d
    4 Holon's Castform
     
  19. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Don't listen to him. :)
     
  20. drmario

    drmario New Member

    Wasn't going to, especially since he neglected to tell me how many trainers and energies. Besides ow would you get all the kingdras set up? No one has made any suggestions about how to fit windstorm into this list.

    Pokemon (19)

    4 Horsea (sleepy ball)
    3 Seadra (smokescreen)
    4 Kingdra ex

    2-2 Fearow

    2-2 Altaria ex

    1 Vaporeon*

    Trainers (27)

    3 Copycat
    2 Steven’s Advice
    3 Castaway
    1 Scott
    3 Bebe’s Search
    2 Holon Mentor
    2 Battle Frontier
    2 Buffer Piece
    3 Strength Charm
    3 Rare Candy
    1 Team Galacticas Bet
    1 Night Maintenance


    Energies (14)

    12 Fighting
    2 Cyclone
     
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