kingdra isnt it good?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by glaceon_master, Aug 15, 2008.

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  1. glaceon_master

    glaceon_master New Member

    OK so everyone thinks Kingdra sucks and it wont last but everyone will now that once people start getting it it'll grow on ya =^_^=

    like for example me myself as a GG player iam getting out of GG for kingdra

    which is kingdra and empoleon and maybe a empoleon LVX big hitters on bench and an easy way to knock out Pokemon and win right? and some other techs for kingdra deck are dusksnoir to whip out their bench in all three AMU's come into play or if u jsut need to lower there bench, and claydol lol everyone loves claydol its a good drawer and can save ur life u can get kings our fast and easy, and dont forget about felicty's drawing to get water energys down in the discard pile,lol but here are some cards that might make kingdra tremble

    like luxary will do 100 dmg plus ur weakness powthere goes ur king but with weakness guard u can prevent that
    or the fairy's but u have to get all three LVx's out before u die and if u do it might even be too late for u to play them

    either way kingdra will be up there as a play deck and I'll be using it in this yrs BR Autumn and I'll have news about how it does

    Last edited: Sep 12, 2008
  2. G-Dog4377

    G-Dog4377 New Member

    ORLY? You think everyone here thinks Kingdra sucks? It is the single most hyped deck I have ever seen. As for your deck idea, I see what you're getting at with thebench damage, but there is not much synergy beyond that. Kingdra wants to discard a lot, and there needs to be a lot of disposable cards in the deck. There isn't enough space to effectively fit in Empoleon unless it is a tech. There are better partners for Empoleon and Kingdra that are better suited to each one's strategy than each other.
  3. Politoed666

    Politoed666 New Member

    Pure Kingdra/Claydol will be one of the top-tier decks. As for it being over-hyped, I'd say...oh, G&G is probably more hyped than Kingdra. I think it's ridiculous to say that everybody thinks it sucks, though.
  4. B_B_C

    B_B_C New Member

    Nahh....... Kingdra with claydol is ok. but it would just be terrible with empleon.
  5. glaceon_master

    glaceon_master New Member

    lol iam talking about people here and in pokebeach they think it wont be seen at anyting main event and yes empoleon would more likely be the tech in my deck lol
  6. Brawler

    Brawler <a href="

    No empo.

    Kingdra is better off solo with claydol.

    Empo, tech or not, makes it worse.

    Add Leafeon to decks that could kill it.

    Leaf Guard+-20 resist= 20-20 Dragon Pump.:p
  7. Politoed666

    Politoed666 New Member

    No, it's incredible. Claydol ensures that you'll always have the cards you need to discard.
  8. Ace-

    Ace- New Member

    But Kazam is useless in Kingdra. Mothim MD can be help if most play Leafeon variants or pokemon with :water: resitance.

    btw. Kingdra is good, but not the best deck. If many play Kingdra decks, so the chance is high to see it in tops2/4/8 decks or winner decks. But it is easy to beat Kingdra with Evire, Luxray and Leafeon
  9. glaceon_master

    glaceon_master New Member

    ya but there is alos weakness guard now, and king can be fast if u have the right cards
  10. Brawler

    Brawler <a href="

    ^ yeah but there is still evire Lv.X.

    Come cites bye-bye Kingdra.
  11. B_B_C

    B_B_C New Member

    Dude I play test kingdra against all these differnt decks. Kingdra is for n00bz that think they can turn 2 everything.
  12. glaceon_master

    glaceon_master New Member

    lo lcause we can if he coems out fast enough ya lol when cities come i wouldnt be pklay king i'll be play dusksnoir LVX :p
  13. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    Kingdra is very solid. The only real problem matchups are anything with water resist, and some of those can be 50-50.

    It's not a donk deck. That's like calling Plox a donk deck. They both have the capability, but it won't happen very often.
  14. helghast101

    helghast101 New Member

    doing this from my phone=awesome... anywho gg I don't believe is overhyped due to the fact it has destroyed many a tournament. whereas kingdra I believe is an underpowered and costly version of maggy I honestly don't understand why people think it is so good... I mean ya it may be good late game but getting the enrgy in the discard is a pain and it has little synergy with other pokes to do so... if someone can show me something otherwise let me know...
  15. mario1

    mario1 New Member

    Luxray and Lanturn both have positive matchups against Kingdra so what are you talking about?:nonono:
  16. butlerforhire

    butlerforhire New Member

    Actually Kingdra should not be using its first attack very frequently at all. It is basically a way to deal big damage once or maybe twice a game when needed as well as replenish the deck so that via Claydol/Roseanne's you have continued access to more water to discard for its second attack (and also to keep you from running out of cards). Dragon Pump is what makes Kingdra so good, and the synergy between it and Aqua Stream just seals the deal. Kingdra does not really need to have synergy with other Pokemon because it banks on getting the job done by itself. Of course this independence has its downfalls (lack of versatility/options compared to if there was some exceptional backing for it, weakness is a bit more of an issue, you have no back-up aside from your other Kingdra, etc.) although they don't quite eclipse the pros that come with being so fast and self-sufficient.
  17. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    I bet they don't.

    Luxray needs to rely on it's second attack to OHKO Kingdra, otherwise they 2 hit each other, and Kingdra has faster recovery than Luxray. Unless they donk, Kingdra has the upper hand.

    Lanturn is only hitting the active King, especially after the Kingdra player sees a Chinchou. Lanturn gets KO'd after 2 Dragon Pumps, but needs 3 turns or 3 energy to KO a Kingdra. Again, much faster recovery.

    You can OHKO Kingdras all day, but they'll keep coming back.
  18. glaceon_master

    glaceon_master New Member

    lol ya!! kingdra uses its second attackwhich puts E's in the discard pile adn puts dmg on the bench and does 20 extra dmg the E's are there incase it needs to make the first attack and by toing its second it probaly will never need to use the first attack
  19. (TYranitarFReak)

    (TYranitarFReak) New Member

    It IS good. But easily counter-able
  20. mario1

    mario1 New Member

    I don't see the Luxray to have that much slower recovery with a first attack that recharges Plus you have energy switch and energy pickup I just think no matter Luxray has the Positive sorry!:nonono:

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