Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

List of City Championship Locations/Dates

JohnnyBlaze said:
The best solution, IMO, to not have previous City winners competing in another City Championship is to hold all the championships on one day accross the board. This is not going to happen so we will all have to deal with what happens. :cool:

Actually the best solution would be to trickle down the prizes like Wizards and Upper Deck do. But I mean why would you do what the more successful card companies do?
 
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JohnnyBlaze said:
The best solution, IMO, to not have previous City winners competing in another City Championship is to hold all the championships on one day accross the board. This is not going to happen so we will all have to deal with what happens. :cool:

But maybe that would not be fair to the player that can not make it on that one day. This has happen to me in the past were tournaments like the SBZ were on a day and they could not make it to any of them. With the CC we have 4 in Utah, which were planned on different days with other TOs to make sure that they didnt conflict and that if someone could not make it to one, they would have three other chances to come to the others. As for a past winner playing in another CC, I will leave it up to the player. I feel it is the player who should decided not me. I am a TO to run event for Pokemon players to enjoy. I would not want to turn one way if they made the effort to come to the CC tournament.
 
I understand the issue with previous winners playing in other City Championships. But I agree with Gym Leader Blaine that it should be left up to the player. Since Nintendo has stipulated that they can participate I don't feel those players should be frowned on. It would be nice if the prize would trickle down since that might lessen the bad feelings if previous winners do play in other City Championships.
 
By the way, if you're on AOL and applied for a CC, check your junk e-mail folder. That's where my acceptance letter wound up. Also, I made my map easiet to read.
 
Feraligatr said:
I understand the issue with previous winners playing in other City Championships. But I agree with Gym Leader Blaine that it should be left up to the player. Since Nintendo has stipulated that they can participate I don't feel those players should be frowned on. It would be nice if the prize would trickle down since that might lessen the bad feelings if previous winners do play in other City Championships.

Here are my thinking on it. The VIP stuff is not passed down. If a CC Winner is battling for another CC winning the judge or TO can not tell him to throw the game so the other person can win and get the VIP package. Maybe if the player is good enough maybe he would decided that on his own. Just a thought.
 
The idea of asking former CC winners to staff is a great idea.The experience they would gain from being on the flip side would be a valuable learning experience.Even the younger(10-) ones could help in whatever capacity you felt they could help with.After all,we can`t always have just players.We need to have more people learn to judge/run tournaments and what better idea?Of course,you can`t force anyone to do so,but I`d bet that there would be some good sportsmen out there that would not mind giving others a share of the glory and volunteer to help out.To me,that would be the epitomy of good sportsmanship at the CC`s.

`Sensei
 
Very well said Sensei. :clap: The players that are sportsmanlike are the ones that truly help out in the most significant ways but yet aren't always the ones to be recognized by society. They're the ones that take time out of their training to help the newer players reach a playing level. In my honest opinion everyone that I have seen on this board has shown these qualities(of course I can't physically see that since I don't live everywhere.) But to those players in my opinion and my own mind they are the true heroes and I give them a round of applause. If I had the time to regularly show up to tournaments in WS and Raleigh I would gladly take the time to help anyone that needed anything. So basically I do wish that most of the City Champions that will soon arrive that plan on going to more than 1 even when they've already gotten a VIP package to reconsider and think of other another thing to do. Actually, if that person would want to play in that tournament I personally ask them that if they win the package again. Pass it on to the 2nd place player because that's the moral thing to do. But of course that idea is in a perfect world which we do not live in. So very well said Sensei. Now I return to my Honors Chemistry work.
~Nick G.
 
The Admins deleted my post that revealed some info in the attachment to the City Championship Acceptance email, so I won't saying anything in this post about what that attachment stated. However, let me reveal something that was NOT stated in that attachment.

THERE'S NO MENTION OF STAFF SUPPORT COMPENSATION

So, the question is, will that change? Will the City Championship staffs get compensated by Nintendo? Or, will it be up to the TOs to provided compensation? Hopefully, those questions will be answered soon because I've asked my PTO to query PUI about this.

The idea to ask Champions to help staff at later City Championships will probably only work if there's some kind of compensation. (Crosses Fingers.)
 
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I wouldn't expect compensation from Nintendo as there was talk about Incentives for Professors to volunteer to help staff these events.

There's also some other rather important info missing - who's doing the sanctioning? Is PUI doing it as they have for Pre-Releases or are they leaving it up to the individual TO? I'm sanctioning mine today, just in case.
 
DGL, can you elaborate on "Incentives for Professors?" When my PTO submitted his City Championship application, he was asked to supply the Names and POP IDs of 3 Professors to help staff the event. So, I suppose when the TOs submit their tournament report, they'll supply the Names/IDs of those who helped, and hopefully PUI will provide incentives to those Profs.

However, what about Champs who are non-Profs and want to play again? If there's no tangible incentive from PUI or the TO, I expect those players will NOT choose to help staff.

WOTC learned from the mistake of allowing Champs to play again, and they promptly fixed it. I suspect PUI will do the same, after they're flooded with complaints.
 
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DaytonGymLeader said:
I wouldn't expect compensation from Nintendo as there was talk about Incentives for Professors to volunteer to help staff these events.

There was for the SBZ, maybe PUI will put a box in or something. I know the question has been asked, but nothing has come back yet.
 
Maybe we should have a TO-only forum to get into these Compensation issues. But for the general boards, it should be discussed circumspectly.
 
PokePop said:
Maybe we should have a TO-only forum to get into these Compensation issues. But for the general boards, it should be discussed circumspectly.
Tournament Organizers should care about compensating their own staff. Some don't and its clear that this is an issue that should be addressed publically since the TO mailing list is not a publicly accessed place Pop.

Thus far the "trickle down" effect for staff compensation has failed at many events, with some PTOs retaining that product for their own personal or commercial use. A system needs to be established that rewards Professors and TOs for their active involvement in sanctioned tournaments... like judge three events, get a promo, judge fifty, here's a tee shirt. Will this roll out before City Champs? Probably not, but it's still something that should be considered.

In many respects, the City Championships are small Super BattleZones. I know that I recall recieving some limited compensation for my volunteering at the Skyridge one, but it was no more than twelve packs. Was compensation a requirement and provided for the SBZs?
-Phil
 
Steve, there was a posting on the OP web site quite some time back that there would be some type of incentive for Professors to volunteer for the City Championships. Sorry, but I can't find the original posting on their site. However, it was never said what. It could be points towards Master Professor Status, could be product, who knows. The only folks who do, aren't talking.

Phil, if I remember correctly, there was a Box of Skyridge provided for Judge Compensation with the SBZs.
 
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Compensation? Isn't the fact that the event was run with staff who knew what they were doing enough?

But it is nice to get boosters. Our PTO was rewarding us a box and a half (like he does for his Premier Magic events staff).

But points? It sucks when only one person can get them.
 
GLPhil said it right. TOs report to PUI. Judges/staff report to the TO. PUI takes care of its TOs. (I wish I could say how they're taken care of without getting my post deleted.) TOs take care of their staff. Now, if PUI wants to help the TOs take care of their staff, like they did at the SBZ, then fine.

Anyway, bjj brings up an interesting issue. It's a virtue to desire to serve others. Those who live in a nobler realm will agree. But, (man, I'm gonna get deleted here) TOs will be compensated. For those of us living in this baser realm, TOs should follow the parable of the Unjust Servant. That is, they should justly treat their servants (staff) like their master (PUI) justly treated them. That's all.
 
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Steve: You're not going to get deleted for saying TOs get compensated.
The devil is in the details.
It's not public info as to what that compensation is.
Do you want your paycheck published on the internet?
That is what you are doing to every TO by doing that.
 
I recall the post about Professors being compensated. There wasn't much details at the time, but it seems like it had something to do with earning points towards some goal, like a very special card or something.
 
PokePop said:
Maybe we should have a TO-only forum to get into these Compensation issues. But for the general boards, it should be discussed circumspectly.

I like that idea. I know the PTOs have something they used. Something on these boards might not be a bad idea also and invite PUI to used them also.
 
I'm not really a TO but just want to voice off on the judges deal. For all the premier events, I drive my self a little over an hour down from New Hampshire to Mass every time to judge. I don't do it for the product payment, but because I like that feeling the players get knowing that they are getting a good quality event... that warm feeling knowing that they had a great time and want more. Sure the professor shirt, or product is nice, but its primarly the enjoyment from judging I get and I keep returning for. When I drove the 13+ hours to Origins last year, I played in only 2 events; the Professor Championship and Team Multiplayer Sealed. I spent the rest of my time either working the open-league for wizards or demoing for PUI. For the product or rewards? No. Because I enjoyed doing it... and the learning experence was great too (that gaming hall was cold for my shorts and sitting for 3 hours in a row @_@).

If they want to pay judges, they are more than welcome. But I dont think any amount of product/payment will overtake that feeling that is the true reason I return to judge every time :)

-marril
 
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