Machamp Vileplume

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by Porii Sames, Mar 26, 2011.

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  1. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    This deck is insane...

    I love it so much. The Plume helps the Gyarados matchup by slowing it down, and the Machamp helps the Dchomp matchup by...well, being Machamp.

  2. kamz

    kamz New Member

    gdos loves this deck also you beat most sps. a better play is vilegar w 2-2-2 champ
  3. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member


    My friend is currently 4-1 against Gdos with this deck...

    It's still hit hard against trainerlock, so it's slowed down tremendously and T2 Plume is nothing to scoff about when playing Dos.
  4. kamz

    kamz New Member

    whatev it must be trainer dos nontrainerdos autowins
  5. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    It was a bit more reliant on trainers, but not pure trainerdos.
  6. kamz

    kamz New Member

    still machamp/vileplume will only work in an area with areas that dont have magnezone or gdos
  7. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Zone is easily OHKO'd by Machamp prime however.

    He still runs 2/2 SF/prime split.
  8. kamz

    kamz New Member

    its prett easy for zone to do 150
  9. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Have you, like, tested against/with Machamp/Vileplume?

    It sets up decently, and still has insane power to OHKO plenty of things, plus Vilegar has a bad matchup with Vilegar anyways.
  10. Yoshi-

    Yoshi- New Member

    Tested it, even then SP was like 60/40 and Gyaados and Gengar ae iffy til awful
  11. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Did you just do standard Vilegar but with Champ?

    My friend plays it a bit different. Runs a dozen hand refreshers, including 3 Judge to mess up Dos.

    The original point of the deck was to have a better Dos matchup than straight Machamp and have a better Dchomp matchup than Vilegar, and considering he went 4-2 (one loss was a deadraw to a Dos, like 3 Machops, 2 Oddish, and 2 Fighting + drawing into Machamp Prime, one loss being due to a legitimate Lostgar) so I'd say it did its job.
  12. Amt

    Amt New Member

    I don't believe that we, the scrubs of PokeGym, have the right to even discuss such a deck as Curran Hill's. He and his deck concepts... way out of our league.
  13. BrightRush

    BrightRush New Member

    Trainer dos can set up under trainer lock. ChampPlume cant beat Gdos. I could see a vilegar with champ tech having a shot.
  14. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Uhh...VileChamp is 4-1 against Dos...

    It can have difficulties setting up under Trainer Lock, and you're free to set up primes/whatever.

    ---------- Post added 03/27/2011 at 01:47 AM ----------

    edit: and with 3 Judge and 2 Looker's it can really stop it even further.
  15. Scubadude

    Scubadude New Member

    3 stage 2's lolz inconsistency .
  16. jeffrey123

    jeffrey123 New Member

    Pori why are you so annoying? Idgi.

    Champ Plume is alright but nothing to boast about. It came as a great play to Curran's meta obvs.
  17. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Sorry for the noobness, but who's Curran?
  18. amphachu

    amphachu New Member

    The guy who won VA(I think it was VA) states with Champ/Plume
  19. Amt

    Amt New Member

  20. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member


    So I guess the deck does have potential.

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