I hate how it's IMPOSSIBLE for us to have posted this for any reason besides "propaganda." We aren't "elites bashing Mario." ****, I don't even consider myself an elite. Bashing would be "Mario is horrible, it loses to everything, everyone who plays it sucks, KG is a horrible player, etc," which I'm pretty sure none of us said. We haven't said that because Mario obviously isn't horrible, as much as I'm sure many would hate to admit it. It's done well (namely Nats, getting top 16). I'm sure quite a few good players have/are using Mario. KG is certainly not horrible, or anything else negative. He was actually more rational in his first post than many others here. Thank you! The title is "Mario: Why?" Our question is why play Mario when there are alternatives that are better (in our opinion)? I don't think Mario is that bad, to be completely honest. Theme decks are BAD. Mario is obviously not a theme deck. The entire point is that it we find it to be inconsistent and that other things get the job done better. Any opinions of ours that could have been taken as offensive were, to my knowledge, edited out before posting, including a breakdown of a Mario list. Maybe I'll do that again. Well, considering KG is pretty much the authority on Mario, it would make sense for him to have a good list. After the image he's made by posting his list on Pokegym in the open, I don't really think he would post a list that isn't his and claim that it is. I think other options would still be more effective even if Mario were more consistent. Dodrio is one of my favorites! Kricketune and Blissey are simple, too. No one said they aren't. That's one of the things that bothered me about playing Blissey at SIX BRs this fall; I won a lot of games, but there wasn't much room to outplay anyone. The majority of skill involved is predicting your opponent, because you have a fairly limited pool of moves. I think this is just as bad when playing Blissey as it is when playing Mario. Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added: I don't look down on him because I know him personally, but even he would agree that winning Turn 1 8 times in a row is much easier than playing out 8 full games. I would feel exactly the same if it was another Lucario variant. Aaron lost T1 to a Lucario/Eeveelutions, and whether you're playing against Mario or Aggro Lucario or Lucario/Bibarel, it still sucks to not get to draw a card and have already lost. Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added: To explain why we don't think Mario is a top tier deck, and to dispel the myth that we don't like it because it wasn't an SD or something made by an "elite." Apparently, that last part didn't work.