Mario: Why?
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SuperWooper
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But you, like the other elites here, aren't going to tell us the best way to play it, are you? No, you're just another elite - an elite within your Netherlands group, or wherever you're from.
Hope you feel good about yourself after that last post.
Rainbowgym
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If you search you will find what card I mentioned as being a better partner for Lucario.
Just like I mentioned a better partner for Machamp.
I also did mentioned what I considered the best card for Blissey too, it's in my reports.
But like always if any "foreigner" dares to suggest anything, it's never taken serious.
SuperWooper
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Oh, but you couldn't possibly mention it in this thread. We have to "search" for it.
KingGengar
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I'm pretty sure she said Sandslash for Lucario, and Sableye for Blissey.
tglilly
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yea it may be possible that there r better pokemon to pare with Machamp and lucario. But the people who play Mario want to play with both at the same time. If you don't like to use them both together then don't plain and simple. Who cares if there r better pokemon matches out there if people want to play with machamp and lucario together. It's there lost not yours. IF you feel it better to play lucario with blissy then go right ahead. But don't put people down because they want to play Mario.
Articjedi
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It's almost always the worst the worst answer. Sometimes, you just have to swallow the poison, and you end up better for it.
Rainbowgym
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Yes, because this is about Mario, I try to make any comment about other decks/combi as short as possible.
I still can understand why Mario is a deck people like to play. Most of all during Autumn BR it made a good chance on top4. And I didn't complete the attendance/deck/winner topic yet (sorry no time) but Mario did top cut a lot of times.
KingGengar
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MARIO First Place Winners for Autumn Battle Roads tournaments can be found here:
http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56971
http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56971
DarthPika
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I personly think that right now, either Dodrio or Prinplup is the best partner for Lucario.
I agree that Sableye is a great ppartner for Blissy.
desert eagle
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I play Lucario as a partner for Blissey over Sableye because:
Lucario/ER2 gives more of an advantage vs other Blissey than Sableye does. Sableye is just a stall and idk about other people's but our lists are certainly equipped with enough stuff naturally to deal with Sableye and make it near ineffective. ER2 on the FF and hitting with Lucario X ohkos Blissey (after early spread), and you can redo this with TSD.
ER2 also doubles as an out vs Meganium d decks, which is Blissey's only real hard pre-dp3 matchup (at least that I've seen). Not that you really need it that much vs Lucario/Empoleon to beat it, but it IS another out vs that deck too.
The list we had was versatile enough to run about 7-8 slots of pps, buffers and ER2 (also, we still had the 2 strength charm) and still remain brutally consitent, and which of the 2 we ran was completely up to the metagame.
Lucario/ER2 gives more of an advantage vs other Blissey than Sableye does. Sableye is just a stall and idk about other people's but our lists are certainly equipped with enough stuff naturally to deal with Sableye and make it near ineffective. ER2 on the FF and hitting with Lucario X ohkos Blissey (after early spread), and you can redo this with TSD.
ER2 also doubles as an out vs Meganium d decks, which is Blissey's only real hard pre-dp3 matchup (at least that I've seen). Not that you really need it that much vs Lucario/Empoleon to beat it, but it IS another out vs that deck too.
The list we had was versatile enough to run about 7-8 slots of pps, buffers and ER2 (also, we still had the 2 strength charm) and still remain brutally consitent, and which of the 2 we ran was completely up to the metagame.
Hence the title of this thread.
Tego
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You didn't run Cessation Crystal, then? If you did run Cessation, that seems hard to fit in, but if not it sounds convincing to me. :thumb: And Meganium d is GOOD vs Blissey, yes. We've had a player in Norway winning two straight Battle Roads with Meganium/Lucario.
desert eagle
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Cessation wasn't a great play for BRs at all compared to some of the other tricks. PM me if you want me to explain my reasoning, as it's starting to get way off topic =P
Lucario/Meg d is another alternative that should run alot better too, simply because Meganium d is a setup Pokemon. You swarm and instantly have the next Lucario/Meg ready after one comes out, and you definitely don't need it that early - a turn 4-5-6 meg sets up for the late game too. Not to mention MT bayleef fetches evos and you don't slow down evolving through Bayleef since you don't need it right after Lucario dies. Also, the power thins your deck incredibly, and allows you to run less search, leading to more draw/consistency.
KingGengar
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I like the Meganium d/Lucario idea. It wasn't viable for a while because of all the Ape, but now it is, and Empoleon Resistance. Which is why I ran Megachamp at BR also.
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