Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by gardevoirlvx, May 6, 2008.
Out of the 4 LVXS in Majestic Dawn which one do you guys think will see the most play?????
Leafeon, because it combos with so much.
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definitely Leafeon, It'll be teched into EVERYTHING!!!!
glaceon's HP is too low...
porygon-z can be shut off by cess, gardy X and glaceon X
garchomp's just hard to use properly...
Garchomp X will be a deck all on it's own. Leafeon X will probably end up being played more because it can be used as a tech line in addition to a main attacker with a deck based around it. All 4 Lvl X cards are amazing in their own way though, and should shake the metagame up quite a bit.
Glaceon will be played next year a lot because of the body, for now though it's Garchomp because of Rebirth and it's ability to rebirth a quick Flygon EX d (Or other Pokemon) retreat and it's already set up, and it revives your Regular Chomps quick with the right energy
Leafeon will prolly see the most play, but it's not the best one IMO. Glaceon is best because it's got a truly cheap lock and while it needs to combo with Espeon to survive, it eats up very much. It can also be combined with Swampert and mainly Empo MD. Garchomp X is a nice tech into existing Garchomp decks and IMO makes Chomp much better. Porygon Z X is prolly the worst, not because itself, but because it gets locked too easily. Leafeon X will be the most common because it works the best with other pokemon.
I like Porygon Z.X yea they lock but I can still do 120 for 2 possibly,it wont be locked for lone since It can outlast a Gardy possibly if you can roll dice decently.
Leafeon will see the most hype just because it can accel energy. Glaceon second and Chomp X for the fact that people will like to see how good it would be to do possible 30 to bench and recharge anything and maybe try exs in the deck.
Leafeon, while being good energy accel, only works in certain decks well, like Sceptile and Mag(Blaze>Typhlo>Leafeon X) and is hard to get out, being a Level X. It's attack doesn't work if you don't run grass energy or DRE and is snipe material if the bench was spread. I think Glaceon X surpasses Leafeon X in many ways, it's just more limited in the decks it works in.
Glaceon LvX is the best card in the set. No powers. 20 to your opponents bench if heads, Wager + Body + Spread = Owned. It will be like plox 2. Leafeon is good, just not as good.
Well, like everyone else said, Leafeon Lv X will probably see the most play; it's pretty efficient at energy acceleration and useable in almost any deck needing a boost in this area.
Glaceon Lv X and Garchomp Lv X are tied for second imo. Glaceon is easily splashable in any eeveelution deck and can hold its own against Magmotar as well. Garchomp's Restore attack is just powerful, and now that Blissey decks are less common, he won't have to worry about being OHKOed.
Porygon Z Lv X will see the least play. Porygon Z decks were never popular since the damage output was inconsistant, and Z adds only a little to the deck (heck, he doesn't even come with any new attacks).
If Porygon Z LV.X wasn't a stage 2 LV.X, it would be the best LV.X.
Discarding all special energies your opponent has, thus slowing them down is a worthless ability. It might only work once, but once is all you need to discard a multitude of Magmortar's Scrambles.
Oracle's effect every turn at no cost is worthless too. No one cares about always top decking the cards you need, or perfectly setting up draw cards that you really should be running.
I agree, Porygon Z never was, and probably never will be a safe attacker. But look at that evolution line. If that looks like an attacker's evolution line to you, there's something you're missing...
In any case, I see Glaceon as being the hardest to handle. Power Lock is very nice. The attack comes ten damage short of a Magmortar KO (which is problematic), but 70*2 equals the magic 140 which KOs basically all commonly used pokemon. It surviving more then two significant blows might seem problematic, but by locking Telepass/Firestarter, the old decks will have difficulty getting more then two blows off in the first place. :/
I actully see it being kind of even at fisrt with Garchomp/leafeon/glaceon/and Porygon z lvx's but once the decks are tested I think it will come down to Leafeon first glaceon/garchomp second and finally Porygon z lv x
glaceon won't be good until lati-lock is out of the format.
To me, Mode Crash is a bit iffy; obviously, you want to play it when the opponent has special energies out, but it's situational in that you have to have him ready to play them; for a good bit of the game, Mode Crash is worthless. And just from a future perspective, with DRE and Scramble likely going out, it becomes even more pointess (I mean, wow, I just Mode Crashed their Call Energy).
Decode I agree is great to use, but considering you should have the already wonderful Porygon2 out on the bench for massive searching abilities via Supporters, is it really worth losing 1 more attacker for him?
Umm, how? You can still run a nice 3-2-3 line of whatever to run with Porygon Z X and it'll work fine.
Glaceon X>Leafeon X. Leafeon X is just good energy accel, however it's alot harder to get out then the others because of it being a lv. X. Glaceon X has pretty much the cheapest power lock in the game right now, and the only problems are Glaceon's low HP and Latilock. Espeon boosts it's HP, and a 1-0-1 Dusknoir tech would eat up Latilock.
leafeon. Self explanatory.
Leafeon X is t3h pwnage. It's very easy for that attack to get out of hand, and the power is just amazing. Besides, if played with Espeon it reaches the magic 130 mark. And just look at how many decks it can fit into...play it with Blissey as support, EVlutions as support, LeafTile as an attacker...it's just so versatile.
Glaceon seems fragile, but having it out t3 or 4 is very devastating. And if you're lucky on flips, Snow Cloak is just mean.
Garchomp I only see as a tech in existing Chomp decks. Making it the basis for a deck just seems inconsistent...how often are you going to have a Pokemon and 3 energy in the discard along with a stage 3 active in the early game? However as a late-game trick it's awesome...just pick up the last Garchomp they KO'd and free retreat for it next turn.
Porygon Z X will see the least play out of all of them. The fact is that the powers don't make up for such a flippy attack, and it's too bulky of a line to be a tech.
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