Morbid Detonation

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  1. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    4-4 Electrode SW
    3-2-3 Dusknoir DP (Dusclops CG)
    1-0-1 Nidoqueen d
    1 Castform
    Pokemon = 19

    4 Quick Ball
    3 Roseanne's
    1 Night maintence
    3 Rare candy
    3 Celio
    3 PokedexHandy910is
    3 POV
    3 Pokenav
    1 Rowan
    3 Plus power
    Trainers = 27

    4 DRE
    1 Scramble
    4 :psychic:
    5 :lightning
    Energy = 14

    Strategy: Not an old concept so I'm sure you know it. Electrode blows up ASAP for 90-100 (PP can add some damage so i can average 110 max). Dusknoir puts additional damage counters each prize your opponent's prize cards taken. With Pachirisu's mass overhype, full benchs will be huge, making Dusknoir's power even more useful, being able to shuffle away threats before they can do anything. Dusclops is also very useful, shutting down popular special energy cards like DRE, Cyclone Energy, Scramble and Boost. Please rate and give suggestions.
    Holon's Castform is also a great option here. It returns Trode to your hand and gives you any 2 energy you need. I don't play it because I've played 1 as a tech before and lost miserably because it's all I had >.> Feel free to try it out though. I decided to try 1. Might add 2 if someone has sucess with that.
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2008
  2. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

  3. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    ^As said in my strategy description, pachi is overhyped. To start with one, i'd need 4, taking a huge amount of space out of the deck and cutting my use of QB (though i might use Dusk Ball instead). Besides, I want Electrode out as soon s possible and an early Dusclops CG isn't bad either. I'd rather use Stantler SW, though I don't plan to use either.
  4. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Cool idea! I would make the dukinor a 3-2-3 line leaving another space for night maintanence. (and you also want to pull of t2 trode as much as you can.) I would also try adding in another rosseanes so you can get basics before you tie your oppenent when you ko yourself with trode. And I would also try adding in 2-3 TGW because they are great disruption, and think about ruining there set-up on the feild, then shuffling into there deck. For the spots you need I would take out the 3 pokenav because you already have pokedex, and add in 2 team galactics wager, another rare candy (T1 trode isnt bad either.. LOLgg) and then switch the rowan for a copy cat or stevens advice<--- (thats my prefrence.) Oh and another thing to think about is adding in 2 castform.. IT counts as energy to both types, and lets say you have a voltorb on the bench a trode active blew its self up, use its power then attach it as an energy to the voltorb, then attach a holons castform and boom you have a trode in your hand to evolve! All around I like the concept of the deck and Im very interested how the deck would do against metagame. Ill try building and provide match-ups.
  5. pichu bros. rox

    pichu bros. rox New Member

    I would use more Scramble.
  6. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    Castform is a definate no, I only have 8 basics (which is also why i play a 4-2-3 line). i don't really have enough basic's for 4 Rose to be affective, but would be game to try 4. I always lose with TGW, but others can feel free to try it.

    pichu: I lose a prize when E-trode explodes, so most times, I have the same number of opponent's as my opponent. The 1 is incase I can't seem to get ahead and have not alot of energy of noir.
  7. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    it's OK. 6or7/10. -1 Duskull for +1 Scramble.
  8. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    Again, that gives me only 7 basics which is prone to mulliganeing and scramble rarely helps me with equal prize cards. i don't have the cards as of now so i'll wait until i get them or PC trys it before taking out a basic pokemon.
  9. hectagonman

    hectagonman New Member

    By saying Pachirisu is overated, do you mean all in all, or in this deck?
  10. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    I think he means in this deck, but if all in all, that's just mean!
  11. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    I'm saying it's pretty overrated, but not a bad card. It does nothing in this deck, but helps this deck out alot when my opponent uses it, as they probably will. It's really a rather medicorce card, people have just failed to see that there are soo many easy counters to a pachi start deck. That being said, it has many uses in decks that can supply evolutions and or energy rather quickly and I'm sure if I get 4 i'll use them in some deck down the line. But i think it will see too much play, when there are other starters just as good, not really any that are "better"
  12. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    Well I'm pretty sure you need some other basic in here if you're worried about mulliganing a lot. 8 isn't that much more than 7 IMO. Maybe Sableye, Plusle and Minun could do something in here?

    And Pachi is good not only because it's the fastest bench-filler in the format, but because it's also a cheap way to get rid of tools and look into your opponent's hand. It may be fairly easy to counter a Pachi start, but it leaves you more set up than without it.
  13. ShotoCloneX

    ShotoCloneX New Member

    castform is like electrodes best bud. at least 1 would help you alot. 2 recommended. Its a risk, but so is electrode. I've been playing electrode alot lately and found the 2 usually works out the best if your running a 4-4 line.
  14. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    ^I agree entirely, but I use DRE to provide Castform's job and don't lose damage for it on Noir. I understand Castform helps return to the hand electrode, but I have the worst luck ever. I'd always get Castform start against Riolu n00bs and lose. That's just me, so I'll include a note at the bottom about Castform

    mrdaz07: I was thinking that too, but couldn't find one that would work. Plusle and Minun die bench since I KO myself most times. Sableye isn't bad, but i'm iffy on it. I could - 1 Duskull, -1 Pokedex/Plus Power to add in a 1-1 Lati-lock. Then i'd have to switch Dusclops though. I could add in the 1-0-1 Queen line, or just -1 Skull + 1 NM. I'm open to opions for this.
  15. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    I think you can make room for a 2-1-2 line of queen. It would help out a lot because it's a secondary attacker on top of searching.
  16. garlade 07

    garlade 07 New Member

    wat is rc also which queen and finaly how good is this dek does it beat mag gardi huricane any of these deks at all please respond someone :pokeball::pokeball::pokeball::pokeball::pokeball::fire::grass:
  17. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    ^Please, grammar. i can barely understand your post. RC is Rare Candy, Queen is delta would be delta. I don't know if it beats though decks, as I haven't played it yet.

    mrd: I'll try 1-0-1 first.
  18. helghast101

    helghast101 New Member

    Rare candy will help get out the D-noir faster...
  19. Shino Bug Master

    Shino Bug Master Front Page News Editor

    ^Which is sorta why i play 2 of them...
  20. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    ya do? ....hold on.......... OK I think RC means Rare Candy.......... just spell out the whole word to make it easier for us.
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