Okay, I'm trying to help my kids build a Pokemon Card collection but I also want them to get involved in a League so they/we need to learn how to build a deck. One kid 6-1/2 the other is 8. I haven't read the rule book but have a basic understanding of the game, very basic, mostly from playing Pokemon XD on the Wii (GC version). I've seen the kids play the card game casually but I get the feeling they don't have a clue about all the rules.
So I went and bought (with the kids money on their direction), a bunch of $2-$20 cards, mostly 'Ex' cards off E-bay. They have a few hundred cards, but they seem to really want these Ex and Lv.X. This of course before I really did much home work. Duh.
But being an analyst, I at least thought, there must be some tools out there to figure out which cards are best. So I discovered pokepedia.net and through that I discoverd poke-post.com. The first thing I realized is that some of the cards they wanted couldn't be used in official game play 'Not playable in modified format' and that the World Championship (WC) cards couldn't be used in tournaments either. They were just re-releases of cards that were used to win the WC and their original non-WC versions are quite valuable. I'm assuming if you want to get seriously into playing (and/or collecting) these cards that are not playable in modified format should be avoided, prefereing the similar card this is playable?
So I'm thinking why don't all the players with money, just buy all the best cards and use them in their deck? Well that was before I loosely understood there is an aspect of evolution in the card game (and the Candy Trainer card's value in evolution.) (I read one basic article on deck building recently) Seems you not only need the top level (Stage 2) super duper Ex or Lv.X cards, but you need the lower stages of that same character to evolve to that card in order to use it? Am I getting this right? So even though we now have about 50 Ex, Lv.X and other reallly good stage 2 cards, they are only going to be able to really include what 2 or 3 of them in their 60-card deck. And the deck should roughly be 20 energy (try to get a Rainbow Energy), 20 trainers (get a few candy trainers), and 20 character cards or whatever you call them. But those 20 characters are really only 2 or 3 main attack cards with their lower stage versions and then some support characters right?
So it's looking to me like in reality what is happening is the majority of kids out there just want these expensive cards for bragging rights and to trade on the school bus. As soon as they are played, their value goes down as they are no longer mint condition. So there seems to be two sides to this whole thing, one is the game itself, and the other is the card collecting aspect.
We want to do both. So I suppose in that respect, since they have hundreds of lower cards already, having bought up a bunch of Ultra Rare cards is probably a good strategy as then they can pick and choose which Ultra Rare's they are going to play with and which ones they will be treated just as collector cards and never played. It's going to probably take a while for them to experiment with deck building so having a wide variety of Stage 2 cards to choose from when experimenting with different decks is probably good. Right? However, I can't see anyone in their right mind wanting to actually play something like a Charizard EX (a $100 card) unless they got money to burn? Or do they let you play the cards with protectors on them (doubt it.) You can see how clueless I am about all this.
If someone could throw me a bone as to whether or not I'm totally nuts the way I'm going about this or if there are some big points that I'm missing, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want to see the $200 bucks I just dumped on about 60 cards go to waste.
Even just a link to maybe an article: Intro to Pokemon Card Game Playing and Collecting for Bonehead Dads.
Thanks much in advance!
Jazee
So I went and bought (with the kids money on their direction), a bunch of $2-$20 cards, mostly 'Ex' cards off E-bay. They have a few hundred cards, but they seem to really want these Ex and Lv.X. This of course before I really did much home work. Duh.
But being an analyst, I at least thought, there must be some tools out there to figure out which cards are best. So I discovered pokepedia.net and through that I discoverd poke-post.com. The first thing I realized is that some of the cards they wanted couldn't be used in official game play 'Not playable in modified format' and that the World Championship (WC) cards couldn't be used in tournaments either. They were just re-releases of cards that were used to win the WC and their original non-WC versions are quite valuable. I'm assuming if you want to get seriously into playing (and/or collecting) these cards that are not playable in modified format should be avoided, prefereing the similar card this is playable?
So I'm thinking why don't all the players with money, just buy all the best cards and use them in their deck? Well that was before I loosely understood there is an aspect of evolution in the card game (and the Candy Trainer card's value in evolution.) (I read one basic article on deck building recently) Seems you not only need the top level (Stage 2) super duper Ex or Lv.X cards, but you need the lower stages of that same character to evolve to that card in order to use it? Am I getting this right? So even though we now have about 50 Ex, Lv.X and other reallly good stage 2 cards, they are only going to be able to really include what 2 or 3 of them in their 60-card deck. And the deck should roughly be 20 energy (try to get a Rainbow Energy), 20 trainers (get a few candy trainers), and 20 character cards or whatever you call them. But those 20 characters are really only 2 or 3 main attack cards with their lower stage versions and then some support characters right?
So it's looking to me like in reality what is happening is the majority of kids out there just want these expensive cards for bragging rights and to trade on the school bus. As soon as they are played, their value goes down as they are no longer mint condition. So there seems to be two sides to this whole thing, one is the game itself, and the other is the card collecting aspect.
We want to do both. So I suppose in that respect, since they have hundreds of lower cards already, having bought up a bunch of Ultra Rare cards is probably a good strategy as then they can pick and choose which Ultra Rare's they are going to play with and which ones they will be treated just as collector cards and never played. It's going to probably take a while for them to experiment with deck building so having a wide variety of Stage 2 cards to choose from when experimenting with different decks is probably good. Right? However, I can't see anyone in their right mind wanting to actually play something like a Charizard EX (a $100 card) unless they got money to burn? Or do they let you play the cards with protectors on them (doubt it.) You can see how clueless I am about all this.
If someone could throw me a bone as to whether or not I'm totally nuts the way I'm going about this or if there are some big points that I'm missing, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want to see the $200 bucks I just dumped on about 60 cards go to waste.
Even just a link to maybe an article: Intro to Pokemon Card Game Playing and Collecting for Bonehead Dads.
Thanks much in advance!
Jazee