No High Rollers in Pokemon
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master of puppets
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i totally think we should be able to high roll if we want to.
if i play one of my friends, and there isnt a judge watching us directly, im going to high roll just out of spite.
i guess high roll wasnt cost effective either...
i found it completely * that they almost made us allow no coins at Regionals.
i never use coins, but c'mon! the stupid book says coin! and if we have to listen to the stupid book when it says "call for first" then why do they try to completely be rid of coins?
they pick and choose rules.
this is madness!
if i play one of my friends, and there isnt a judge watching us directly, im going to high roll just out of spite.
i guess high roll wasnt cost effective either...
i found it completely * that they almost made us allow no coins at Regionals.
i never use coins, but c'mon! the stupid book says coin! and if we have to listen to the stupid book when it says "call for first" then why do they try to completely be rid of coins?
they pick and choose rules.
this is madness!
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rerisenphoenix
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It's really not that big a deal. Oh no, you have to speak now, instead of just rolling dice. Boy, I don't know that I'll have the energy to battle!
rhodesia123
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it seems weird that they would go out of their way to change a rule that no one had a problem with anyway. they should focus on fixing the more important weird rules, like uncompleted games in best 2/3 not counting.
The Anaconda
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oh, but we're always watching :wink:
The Fish King
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Do you honestly think you can be a Utah player without having one of us know your every move?
vietgamer1021
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Let me be clear: If any judge or TO tried to eliminate coins from being used, they would be in big trouble.
What does "almost made us allow no coins" mean? "Almost"??
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DukeFireBird
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people, I believe in the rulebook it states to use a coin flip to determine who goes first.
Now a die roll can be substituted instead, using the H/T method only.
NOWHERE IN THE RULEBOOK DO I SEE A HIGH ROLL.
If you can provide for me, POP, and PCL an official rulebook that has the high roll for who goes first, then This rule will get abolished. But I know for a fact that that rule doesn't exist.
Get on with it guys, adapt, its not that hard. Ive adapted through it all, and im still here.
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~Duke
Now a die roll can be substituted instead, using the H/T method only.
NOWHERE IN THE RULEBOOK DO I SEE A HIGH ROLL.
If you can provide for me, POP, and PCL an official rulebook that has the high roll for who goes first, then This rule will get abolished. But I know for a fact that that rule doesn't exist.
Get on with it guys, adapt, its not that hard. Ive adapted through it all, and im still here.
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~Duke
master of puppets
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well at Colorado Regionals they tried to make it so that we couldnt use coins to for flip effects in the game.
only dice.
thats what was said at the rules before the tournament started, and we were given some stupid dice that we HAD to use for anything flip related (which is double ridiculous because i had just got some awesome Team M dice that i couldnt even flip!).
but then people talked to them about it, and, with presistance, made it so we could use coins as well as the given dice.
i agree!
HAHA!
no, youre not.
and yes, i do.
double HAHA!
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Tentacruel13
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I have 1 thing to say for PUI.
BOO!
BOO!
Adam Garcia
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so can we still roll h/t for like Burn, or do we have to flip now?
Themagicman
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Its Just A Game !!!
Thanks to write all this Tego.
* If everybody have just followed the rules since the beginning, instead of adding some of their own rules to "facilitate" their game play (flipping coin is soooo hard and complicated!!!) we would not be here talking about that.
*Its only a GAME !!! Like Tego, i think that if two players argue on who flips, who calls, and whatever. I strongly suggest them to leave and find something else to do for having fun, cause they are surely not having fun argueing on flip...
*The way I PLAY and run my leagues and tournaments are simple. I prefer to loose and have fun than win and not having fun. If someone prefer to flips, calls or flips and calls, I dont mind. I just want to PLAY. All my players are encouraged to do the same. Players who always complaining and changing rules are not welcome in my leagues and tourneys.
* We are not in NFL or NHL. we are not hired by companies to play and win at all cost. We spend our own money to get cards, trade, build deck, making new friends and HAVE FUN playing a wonderfull GAME. So if you want to argue and waste time on this, so insignifiant thread, I got two words for ya, ... ... !!!
And that's the bottom line, cause Themagicman said so !!!!
Thanks to write all this Tego.
I think that all the people out there who complaint about this, have forget couple of things.
* If everybody have just followed the rules since the beginning, instead of adding some of their own rules to "facilitate" their game play (flipping coin is soooo hard and complicated!!!) we would not be here talking about that.
*Its only a GAME !!! Like Tego, i think that if two players argue on who flips, who calls, and whatever. I strongly suggest them to leave and find something else to do for having fun, cause they are surely not having fun argueing on flip...
*The way I PLAY and run my leagues and tournaments are simple. I prefer to loose and have fun than win and not having fun. If someone prefer to flips, calls or flips and calls, I dont mind. I just want to PLAY. All my players are encouraged to do the same. Players who always complaining and changing rules are not welcome in my leagues and tourneys.
* We are not in NFL or NHL. we are not hired by companies to play and win at all cost. We spend our own money to get cards, trade, build deck, making new friends and HAVE FUN playing a wonderfull GAME. So if you want to argue and waste time on this, so insignifiant thread, I got two words for ya, ... ... !!!
And that's the bottom line, cause Themagicman said so !!!!
Like Mom & Pop said: you can still use a dice to flip heads/tails.
D6, D12, D20
As a player - I favor the D12. It rolls easy with no skids, stops clean & marks damage to 120 which covers the max amount of damage I usually. It's relatively stable once placed (in my experience).
As a judge:
When you flip your coin, it better tumble a lot in the air. How much is a lot? I know it when I see it. Drops and single flips definitely aren't tumbling a lot. I can make a coin tumble alot and then come straight down using my open palm, and I'm not the most coordinated person. If you're worse than me, use a dice.
If you're gonna use a D6 you better make it travel so that it covers some distance and tumbles. If it skids, slides or drops that doesn't look good and causes disputes, which cause rulings. It takes less dexterity and practice to roll any dice well than flip well, so no excuses for consistently lame rolls.
D20 stop at disputable angles more than the others; you probably get one of those disputes before I tell you not to use it at all for rolling (we don't have time for calls based on style choices... have style but make sure it doesn't interfere with the game).
D20's easy rolling makes it not the best choice as a damage marker (table shake changes damage). If the damage changes on your Pokemon its on you, and that's how I rule it, so i recommend you favor a choice you can live with.
I can see why some HJ ban D20, but I can live with it if you can live with the consequences of your choice.
And finally, you can still roll dice even/odd to determine the heads/tails flip to start the game.
Next person to post "I don't want to flip a coin, please can I use dice" is giving implied permission to be pranked for the improvement of their perception of the obvious -- we don't want players to get injured crossing the street! :tongue:
D6, D12, D20
As a player - I favor the D12. It rolls easy with no skids, stops clean & marks damage to 120 which covers the max amount of damage I usually. It's relatively stable once placed (in my experience).
As a judge:
When you flip your coin, it better tumble a lot in the air. How much is a lot? I know it when I see it. Drops and single flips definitely aren't tumbling a lot. I can make a coin tumble alot and then come straight down using my open palm, and I'm not the most coordinated person. If you're worse than me, use a dice.
If you're gonna use a D6 you better make it travel so that it covers some distance and tumbles. If it skids, slides or drops that doesn't look good and causes disputes, which cause rulings. It takes less dexterity and practice to roll any dice well than flip well, so no excuses for consistently lame rolls.
D20 stop at disputable angles more than the others; you probably get one of those disputes before I tell you not to use it at all for rolling (we don't have time for calls based on style choices... have style but make sure it doesn't interfere with the game).
D20's easy rolling makes it not the best choice as a damage marker (table shake changes damage). If the damage changes on your Pokemon its on you, and that's how I rule it, so i recommend you favor a choice you can live with.
I can see why some HJ ban D20, but I can live with it if you can live with the consequences of your choice.
And finally, you can still roll dice even/odd to determine the heads/tails flip to start the game.
Next person to post "I don't want to flip a coin, please can I use dice" is giving implied permission to be pranked for the improvement of their perception of the obvious -- we don't want players to get injured crossing the street! :tongue:
vanderbilt_grad
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IDK. It just fustrates me. Not so much that high roll goes away but that we have to play differently than they do in Japan. They have so much. A wider format, better boxes, and more. It just feels highly unfair to me that we get yet another thing ... them getting to do minor procedural things the way they like but we can't. Most of all this new out of the blue enforcement just seems ... well ... petty. Probably why it evoked a petty responce from me in return.
I'll drop it but I still don't feel any better about the situation.
ShadowCard
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Will have to make sure your daughter slips some odd-colored sock into the wash before Origins this year :biggrin:
This cracked me up. What's closer to white: green or brown?
BLiZzArD
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Your mistaken sir people didn't talk to them Judges talked to them Me in fact and clarified what was misspoke and reminded him coins are always allowed. Hence coins and the supplied dice were the only option for flipping.
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