Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by Ra2xse, Jan 16, 2008.

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  1. Ra2xse

    Ra2xse New Member

    4x Clamperl GE
    3x Corebyss GE
    2x Huntail GE
    1x Scott
    2x Castaway
    3x Celio's Network
    3x Roseanne's Research
    4x POV
    2x Steven
    2x TGW
    4x CB
    4x Cess
    1x Stenght Charm
    4x PP
    4x Quick Ball
    3x NM
    4x Multi
    5x Water
    3x Psychic
    2x Darkness (basik)

    T2 deck whit major distruption, CB take out opponent's DREs and Scrambles and Boosts, Cess Take away Powers and Podys, Corebyss hit [W][P] 50 + Confuse and heve a absolutly great FREE first attack.

    Last edited: Jan 18, 2008
  2. holoncastform

    holoncastform New Member

    what do gorbyss and huntail do:confused:
  3. poketo

    poketo New Member

    17 supporters?? no!
    Multi and not DRE No!!
    A 1/15 chance that you get a basic, and a 1/225 of getting 2 NO!!!

    You need more set up basics and what the heck is CB?? Use stantler to get all of your supporters
  4. hectagonman

    hectagonman New Member

    how is it 1/255 chance? Wouldn't it be more like 2/60?or 1/30? Plus you draw 7 cards.
  5. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    Dre shouldn't be used because this doesn't need a lot of eneryg to attack so yea and he uses different typse. There are a lot of T2 decks that run only 4 basics. CB is crystal beach. Also try playing great balls. -1 rosannes, 1 castaway and 2 wager for 4 great balls.

    Also could you please add in spoilers.
  6. poketo

    poketo New Member

    you do (1/15)^2 its a 4/60 x 4/60 or 1/15 x 1/15 or to be more exact it would have to be more exact
    (4/60 x 3/59)/7 chance
  7. Ra2xse

    Ra2xse New Member

    I have a 4x Quick ball, 3x Celio and 3x Roseanne to get Basik T1-T2, 10 Crads. 17 Suppperters isn't too much, over 24 is too much.
  8. poketo

    poketo New Member

    1/6x6 chance of getting a card to get basics give or take a few percentage points and get hit with a t1 ohko on your only pokemon and you are going first yea it is a garentied chance of losing 30% of the time (and 30% makes a difference) on t1 or t2
  9. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    What are you talking about. There are tons of decks that only play 4 basics and win all the time and this looks like this is no exeption.
  10. poketo

    poketo New Member

    Name 5 that have been played in the past 3 years
  11. Rai

    Rai <a href="

    Blissey, Banette EX (though it's usually played with techs), Banette (that's likely to change, but for now...), Kricketune, Empoleon (basically 4 basics) :/

    The thing is, none of those happen to have 40 HP basics (which is rather low, yes) that can't get out of trouble in some way. Banettes evolve, Kricketune looks for friends, Empoleon... Uh... USED to use Wally's Training and now kinda dies.

    I suppose the good news is 50% turn 1 Paralysis, which can save you (but after turn 1, it won't really save you).

    Don't really have much to complain about with the trainer line, except that the Castaway count seems too low for some reason. I'm not sure if you want to consider another line or not though... Cheep disruptive attacks and low HP almost beg for some janitor friend to clean up the mess. Just about the only thing I could think of for sweeping is Sharpedo, and he can't abuse Cessation Crystal and doesn't have particularly nice HP (but DOES have free retreat and monstrous damage output). I suppose Nidoking DOES have nice HP, no body to worry about, and uses colorless energy on his useful attacks (Poison Rub, really). But... Such a line just seems like it'd cause problems, especially compared to Sharpedo. :/

    Tricky... Really tricky... Almost makes one appreciate the HP that Lickilicky has (though this deck gets the benefit of almost no energy needed, I guess) :/
  12. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    Not in the last 3 years because the last 3 years the format was mostly set up decks but this format doesn't really alow set up decks to be good so most decks are turn2 decks like krikitune, blissey, lukario, banette, magmortar, Banette ex was played last year, there has been forms of speed ape that has played 4 basics, and same with empoleon, Ive also seen speed krow do well, and there are a lot more to come in the next few sets. And oh yeah lets not forget scizor which came in second in juniors and forth in masters. I myself am making a deck with only 2 basic and it has won games against most of todays archetypes.
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2008
  13. poketo

    poketo New Member

    :rolleyes: w/e but yet most of the decks you stated are usually seen with at least 8
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