Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Professor Core Values

Well I just got 25 out of 25 on the professor test . Go Me LOL

however maybe I should only have scored 24 since I gave the USA answer for minimum TO age rather than the UK one?

glad there wasn't a question about holding tournaments at inaccessible/restricted locations. I'd have got that one 'wrong' too!

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The Core values and professor programme offer a carrot to all those who take part. Be good and continue to get the carrot ;)

Now the trouble with international is that though we can see the carrot, and we even get to take a few bites, the carrot is always removed before we get to eat the whole thing. What we are left with is a long stick and a string attached :( So it isn't a surprise that some see the carrot and some see the whip :(

Its sad but here in the UK we have yet to recieve a single complete year of officially delivered OP. Through the help of our overseas friends we have managed to fill in some of the holes but it still doesn't seem like a very professional way to deliver OP. I always believed that some of the reason behind WotC's loss of the pokemon license was due to international issues. Under PUSA /PUI some things have improved but there is still a big hill to climb. It can be climbed if we work together. Maybe it can only be climbed if we work together.
 
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Well I did that homework already.
And because our Local Distributor scored a negative on all issues I suggest they are removed from the program.

Sorry but those Professor Core Values are for the most things we simple people try to carry out in real life day after day.
By putting up those demands this way PUI didn't show any respect for National habbits/ ways of life.
Smoking in is a normal (bad)habbit in most European Countries, also is drinking a glas of wine or beer. It's a way of life.
And now someone overseas is telling me that it's unacceptable???
From who's point of view?????
It's quit normal to ASK your VOLUNTEERS to please take care of how you want to see the playing environment, but demand them?????????

We have National Laws and as long they are not telling us to stop smoking or drinking, who is PUI to place themselves above that law.

Of course we try to find a smoking free place to play, but this is not always possible.
Of course nobody gets drunk during an event, but drinking a few beers/glas of wine is on our standards not a dead sin.

But as long I still see international TO's, OP Providers and Local Distributors not following Tournament Rules
Tournaments FAQ
Tournament Floor Rules
Pokemon Tournament Organizer Handbook
Than I think International Professors don't have to worry about these core rules, they are not meant for anyone outside the US, just like the rules pointed out above in blue.

BTW WHICH International Professors?????
check your my Pokemon and see if you are still a professor.











The Organized Play Provider Core Values are:

Integrity
A LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR must act with integrity at all times. A LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR should be fair and unbiased, whether judging a tournament or resolving a dispute. Personal feelings about another player can often cloud a judgment call. A LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR must not take these feelings into consideration when resolving an issue between players, parents, venue staff, or spectators.

Honesty
A LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR must be representatived by an honest individual. It is critical to the integrity of the ORGANIZED PLAY Program that its members have a reputation as trustworthy and honest. If players cannot trust a LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR to be honest, they cannot trust that his or her rulings are accurate or events fair. In addition, Pokémon USA may occasionally contact ???????? to assist in player or venue investigations. If a LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR has been known to be dishonest, the integrity of the investigation may be jeopardized.

Responsibility
LOCAL DISTRIBUTORS are trusted with a great deal of responsibility. If a LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR is a Tournament Organizer or League Leader, it is critical that all event reporting is done in a timely manner. In addition, a EMPLOYEE OF THE LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR working at an event is responsible for ensuring that all event prizes and participation rewards are handed out according to the event guidelines.

Professionalism
To maintain a higher degree of respect, LOCAL DISTRIBUTORs should act professionally when acting in an official capacity. Foul language, horseplay, smoking, drinking alcohol, and similar activities are unacceptable while actively representing Pokémon. Players, parents, spectators, and venue staff should be addressed courteously, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or physical or mental capacity. In addition, it is unprofessional to publicly make negative comments about Pokémon, the Pokémon TCG, or Pokémon USA without first trying to resolve these issues with Pokémon USA via private communication. Negative comments made publicly only hurt the brand, the game, the company, and the organized play program.

The relationship between Pokémon USA and a The Local Distributor is a win-win relationship. This means that either party, at any time, for any reason, will cover each others "mistakes" . If Pokémon USA or the local distributor severs the relationship, the local distributor will no longer be considered a provider of the Organized Play Program and will not be eligible to receive any of the benefits associated with the Organized Play Program.
 
I personally am glad to see this finally go up. I had been suggesting that we have something like this for some time now, and Im glad to see that someone finally realised we needed this. It seems to me that POP may be cracking down alot more on professors who act in a manner that is, well I think that is pretty well explained already.
 
Can't agree more Ice'Cold although if the International community reads Rainbowgym's post they may well be left wondering what standards of behaviour are expected of the distributors?

Certainly when you substitute the word professor with distributor/op provider or maybe even PUI/POP International the Core Values could appear in some of our countries to be meaningless :(

I welcome the statement that this apply to PUI/POP but I would also welcome them applying equally to distributors and op-providers worldwide.
 
I see what the problem is, european social standards may differ greatly from that of the US, and maybe even differ from country to country, am I correct? Well The problem I see there is that there are alot of countries which have professors, and sorry to say it, but most of them are in north america. I see your concern with the whole international problem, and I know that you guys have plenty of other problems to deal with. But it my mind this shouldnt affect you guys too much. I say keep running your events in a manner that school might use. Safe for the players but still keeps the rules. And dont (this one made me laugh on the values) ever even try to play or judge pokemon while your drunk...Well thats what I have to say, I think I'll leave it at that. Bottom line, professors are the example for what a good pokemon player is.
 
International there are no core values, the only value there is in $$$$$.
As our UK fellows are telling, Michel from Belgium did en we are again saying, you can't put up any rules as long as the basic rules are not worked out (in progress) properly.

It doesn't make any sence.
Were is the logic???
So if you want to sanction a tournament, you have all the blessings from the OP provider, to do it the way you like. You don't have to follow floorrules or whatever.
You don't have to be a TO, because that provider will even sanction it under their name, then it even looks better(remember they are never going to fail)

If anyone has doubts about this, just check this sanctioned tournament.
Tournament ID:04-10-000374
Even if you don't reed Dutch you know what this means
De volgende kaarten zijn uitgesloten van deelname: Ancient Mew, Pikachu’s Birthday, promo’s 46, 50 tot en met 53 (oude serie) en andere niet in Nederland uitgebrachte promokaarten (nieuwe serie nummers 012 en verder).

And this is just a minor tread of the floorrules.
We attended our OP provider and PUI the last years time after time on these things and only 1 time an action was taken.

My conclusion.
If you are registered as an international TO of Professor you have to follow rules.
If you are just someone out there doing a tournament any way you like it, with you own rules. Pass the standings to your OP provider.
You will find you players back in the ranking, completly legal, because the OP provider sanctioned/uploaded them, and they are free to do whatever they like as long as they can show numbers (players) to the headquarters.
The way they got those numbers (players) is not important.

WOW this is great, I'm no TO anymore, my Professor status suddenly disappeared from my Pokemon.
I can do a tournament any way I like and my players will get into the Worldwide ranking.
What I a nice way to compare "skills".
NO headache anymore about how to teach everyone the correct rules, Judging becomes more easy, just do it the way you like.
No need to stay updated with errata of cardrulings, why should we the Op provider coveres everything because they are allowed to.

I won't do these things because it doesn't merge with my PERSONAL standards of being honest etc.
But this is the way international is moving right now, and who cares?
 
Rainbowgym seems to make an unfortunate, but interesting case. Informative.

Ice'Cold said:
I say keep running your events in a manner that school might use. Safe for the players but still keeps the rules.
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for randomness, did you know that it is legal to smoke on school grounds in some states (United States)? The law only applies to inside the school in those states. I guess you wouldn't want to hold the league outside of the school in those states..... :rolleyes:

Ice'Cold said:
Bottom line, professors are the example for what a good pokemon player is.
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I'd like to think that. Honestly, though I do notice that those of us 14 and younger hate the "holier than thou" attitude, especially when the only deciding factor is age (especially since some of the age requirements have gone up.). If they hate it, I wonder what those of us 15+ who aren't professors will think when we exert the "professionalism" to them.
Take Ice'Cold's school atmosphere idea (sorry, Ice'Cold. I'm not trying to pick on you, I like the school atmosphere idea as well but it applies). Seniors are expected to accord to a "higher" expectation of behavior. Does that really happen? It's "holier than thou" in action. Older does not equal knows more, being a professor does not equal that you act (more) "professionally."

Professor Dav said:
In the WotC days, you had an entire age group removed from the program, and were lucky to have it replaced by the Professor program. With POP, you have 15+ AND a Professor Program that is expecting it's members to live up to a higher standard of behavior than a standard member.
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This has been bothering me. It seems wrong that this gets dragged out of the closet. Did this bring any bad memories to anyone else?
anyway, from what i observed, while it is established that WotC tried to remove the 15+ from the game, 15+ survived on its own. The 15+ was not actually replaced by the professor program as many of the 15+ were never professors (otherwise we'd have a longer list of grandfathered professors). 15+ and the Professor program were, as they still are, really seperate programs. If that was the intention, it failed. WotC's bad behavior cost them the liscence (or so I'd like to believe).
I believe that you do not have to worry about the higher standard of behavior. Those who are professors know how to act reasonably. If they don't, there will be others who are willing to correct them. Those who refuse to act reasonably will be looked down upon as if they are not professors and they will learn they have no credibility unless they change. Bad behavior of professors will cost those professors their credibility and respect, since others will see there are better professors to look to, which is more than the removal of title of professor will usually do.
 
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This has been bothering me. It seems wrong that this gets dragged out of the closet. Did this bring any bad memories to anyone else?anyway, from what i observed, while it is established that WotC tried to remove the 15+ from the game, 15+ survived on its own. The 15+ was not actually replaced by the professor program as many of the 15+ were never professors (otherwise we'd have a longer list of grandfathered professors). 15+ and the Professor program were, as they still are, really seperate programs. If that was the intention, it failed. WotC's bad behavior cost them the liscence (or so I'd like to believe).
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I too don't like the WotC bashing that seems to come out of PUI now and again, whatever the past was.. and in the UK it was really bad .. I would think a professional company would like to be judged on their delivery not their predecessors lack of!

Indeed sometimes I feel the passionate anti-wotc feeling displayed by PUI may well mean they miss the trick of benchmarking themseves to the leader in OP! Whatever way you cut it the DCI is the jewel in the WotC empire and maybe some more emulation of that would help us all?
 
First of all I want to say that the last 2 tournaments I've played in Belgium were perfectly organized and the upload of the result has been done in less than 24 hours.

I've talked with the POP representative of our distributor last week and things seem to be on a very good way. One example ? I've called him last Thursday for a ranking problem (my daughter was not in the rankings and had lost her password). Problem solved in less than 1 hour ! :)

When I read these Core Values, I'm sure that it's already followed by most of the Profs for a very long time.
From what I've heard and read, the behavior of TO's who are not WotC or PUI Professors has sometimes been far from good (cheating, lack of knowledge of the rules, bad behavior, ...).
I'd like to see these Core Values applied to ALL the TO's and responsibles of leagues, and to all the people involved in POP, and not only to Professors.
All these non-Profs people do represent the game and the players, and the kids and their parents don't know if they're Profs or not and if they have a code of conduct to follow or not.

I agree with my other European friends who ask for a Core values to be followed by the local distributors. They are, in my opinion, the first representatives of PUI and of the game in Europe and some other countries. Mr Liesik and Prof Dav have already answered for PUI.

Some European people, like myself, have sometimes been quite harsh on these boards. Thinking about it, I think GymLeaderPhil is 100 % right. The key word is 'communication'.

The Professor mailing list would be a great idea. Profs would have info and could so be able to understand things they don't always understand because of a lack of elements.
It could also give everybody answers to questions asked by individuals and so share the info and experience amongst all the Professors.

We may not forget that the Profs are in front line. The questions are asked to them by the players, the remarks are made to them, the complains are made to them, not to PUI or the local distributor.
The difinition of a Professor on the PUI's website say : 'A Pokémon Professor is someone who has a thorough understanding of the Pokémon TCG and of organized play. Professors have a desire to share their knowledge with others and to help the game grow.'
The players see the Professor, who's TO, judge or Gym Leader, as the reference, as someone who's like that definition.

One example of question/complain addressed to a Professor ? A father, who's kid is playing Pokemon, has been on the PUI's website. He has seen the info about the next prerelease and has tried to find info about these premiere events.
His question ? Why do we have to pay so much more than in the USA (25 Euro - approx 30 USD) and I've heard that the players will only have 1 special booster as prize while other countries give 4 boosters and 2 special boosters ?

Good question IMO, and that father deserves a correct answer. Unfortunately, i don't think Profs do have the info to answer properly. Of course they could say 'Sorry, I don't know, but here's the phone number of the distributor', but is that really professional ? ;)


Rainbowgym, Ukpokemonpro, NoPoke, I don't think PUI is asking more than Wizards did in the past, and the things they ask in these Core Values are, and I know it, part of your day to day life.
The way it is asked is maybe different, but the main difference has to be found in the difference of relations you have with the distributors compared with the past. ;)
 
I already have a forum and a website, where any of my players in this area can go to find out information about my events, and those that other Professors like the PTO, Terry, or other TO's in the area run, AND can leave feedback to me and those other Professors and TO's. This website can be found at www.blackseagym.net.tf . I just have not gotten a chance to discuss with the other TO's and Professors, besides Terry, about listing their events on the site, and allowing the players to leave feedback for them. Please if your name appears on the list below, visit the site sometime, and at least check it out. If you would like for your events to be listed there, and allow players to leave feedback for you there, just register on the message boards and send me a PM there. I will update it as soon as possible.

Professor David Nelson
TO Mike Payne

I don't know of any others than that, other than Terry, at the current moment. You check it out plese Terry. Anyway, I feel that this helps for the players to communicate directly with me and the rest of the Professors and TO's in this area, so that we don't have to spam up the Pokegym. I feel this site is more direct, and easier for the players to contact us directly. Pokegym is also great too, but we needed a more direct way for the players to contact us.
Anywho. I do feel that every one should be expected to go by a set of core values. Like player courtesy, you know.
 
Not technically. I'm showing what I try to do with my players, to hear their feedback on how OP goes for them. In my opinion their should be a really much higher level of communication between player and their area's Professors, TO's, and Gym Leaders. That's what I'm doing with Black Sea Gym, giving my players a better way to contact me and the rest of this area's TO's and Gym Leaders, and Professors. Much less the area's PTO. There also should be a set a core values that EVERYONE, whether they be player, Professor, TO, Gym Leader, and Master Trainer should follow. And like there needs to be a higher level of communication between Players and their Professors, TO's, and Gym Leaders, There should be a higher level of communication between Player, Professor, TO, Gym Leaders and the staff at PUI or whoever their distributor and OP provider is. THAT'S what I'm saying.
 
Professor Dav said:
We didn't say, "don't discuss things", we said, be professional.

A professor saying,

"The new prize structure is stupid. The people running the programs at PUI should all be fired."

Prior to ever, ever contacting anyone from this office to understand what our strategy might be, and why we've chosen a particular way to do something, is completely unprofessional and will not be tolerated.

It is 100% rumor mongering, and as mentioned, is UNPROFESSIONAL. Once we answer, or, are given a reasonable amount of time to do so, you're still free to voice your opinions about a decision or program. However, you are still expected to be...say it with me...PROFESSIONAL in the manner in which you conduct yourself as a Professor. If you want to be recognized as a Professor, you will do this, if you don't, you shouldn't really care about it.

Of course, the exact same discussion could be initiated with a "I'm not so sure about the new POP prize structure. What do the rest of you think, I'd like to get a feel of what the rest of you think about it.", and is a completely professional way to handle the exact same issue.

In the WotC days, you had an entire age group removed from the program, and were lucky to have it replaced by the Professor program. With POP, you have 15+ AND a Professor Program that is expecting it's members to live up to a higher standard of behavior than a standard member. We are not going to create a program like this, that says to kids "These Professors are the standard that players and organizers should strive to" just to have that member go off and behave inappropriately.

It is a choice after all, no one is going to force anyone to become a Professor if they do not wish to agree to the terms.

Thanks,
Prof. Dav
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I totally agree with you on this dave. The professor program should be created to have elite mebers who will work to make the program great and not disgrace it in any way. In wizards professors were brought in to help make the 15+ great and it backfired when players would get the professorship and do nothing or just have it for bragging rights. I like how you will give it with the pormise that the professor will help bring the game out to other areas and help promote it. If they dont they shouldent e a professor. I hope you make this a rule in the program that will never be broken because if you do it will make the professor program strong.
 
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