QuaggyBug Deck. Any ideas?

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  1. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    I was thinking a little bit on the weekend and came up with this deck:

    4x Ledyba d
    4x Ledian d

    4x Wooper d
    4x Quagsire d

    4x Budew

    20 Pokemon


    4x Strength Charm
    4x Buffer Piece
    4x Celio
    2x Mentor
    2x Mr. Stone
    2x Scott

    2/4x Something
    2/4x Something
    2/4x Something

    16 Trainers

    8x Grass NRG
    4x Basic Metal NRG
    2x Delta RE
    2x Scramble NRG

    16 NRG


    I haven't thought of a full trainer line yet and all ideas will be graciously accepted.

    Main cards and what part they play:

    Quagsire:

    Quagsire is the main attacker in the deck. At first glance he doesn't look very powerful but if you attach one Strength Charm to him his Pump Out attack knocks 80 damage onto the defending Pokemon, enough to OHKO anything.
    His power, Dig Up, supports the deck. It allows you to pull 2 Pokemon Tools from your discard pile and put them into your hand when you evolve into Quagsire. Obviously, you then put them on to Quaggy to dish out 70-80 damage a turn.

    Ledian:

    Ledian is a great support for Quagsire. When you evolve Ledyba into Ledian, you can use Ledian's power, Prowl, to search your deck for any card you want. This attack is very versatile and can be used in most decks.

    When you have 2 NRG on Ledian you can attach a Pokemon tool to it and use Metal Star. When you have a Pokemon tool attached and use Metal Star you can draw three cards. This allows you to thin your deck a bit and possibly draw another Pokemon Tool.

    Starter Pokemon:

    Budew:

    Budew is seriously underrated at my league and nobody plays with it. I think differently.
    Because "Trainers" included Supporters and Stadium cards in the EX sets, Budew's attack allows you to get ANY Trainer. If it is DP-onwards it only includes cards with "Trainer" in the top left corner but I have absolutely no DP Supporters in this deck.
    This allows you to pull Mentors and Celios for free, and the NRG you would use to power Budew you can use to power a benched Wooper or Ledyba.


    By now you would have figured out the concept of the deck. This is a mock battle which I made:


    T1: Active: Budew
    T1: Bench: Wooper and Ledyba
    Attach: Grass to Wooper
    Attack: Pull Celio.

    T2: Active: Budew
    T2: Bench: 2 Wooper and 2 Ledyba
    Supporter: Celio for Ledian
    Power: Prowl for Str Charm
    Attach: Grass to Wooper
    Attack: Pull Celio.


    T3: Active: Wooper
    T3: Bench: Ledian, Wooper and Ledyba
    Supporter: Celio for Quagsire
    Attach: Grass to Quagsire
    Attach: Strength Charm
    Attack: Pump Out for 80.

    Rinse and repeat.


    Using Holon Mentor in this deck:

    When you play Holon Mentor you should discard a Pokemon Tool if possible. You can get it back with Dig Up. This way you won't waste Quagsire's beaut power.


    The deck has no Pokemon with health above 100 so I am thinking about adding another pokemon like Nidoqueen 2-2-2. Please give your opinions on this.

    I appreciate any suggestions and I DO need some more Pokemon Tools so please recommend something. Don't say Cess Crystal. It shuts the whole deck down.

    Thank you very much.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2008
  2. hectagonman

    hectagonman New Member

    Budew only gets Trainers... It can't get old supporters even though they were trainers because Budew is a DP-on card. Just use stantler/Chingling
     
  3. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    185 cards in our format don't exist because Napoleon commands it. (There are 185 cards not OHKOed by 80).
     
  4. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    Napoleon:
    I'll put it this way to make it simple. Pre D&P cards that say Trainer gets any Trainer/Supporter/Stadium. This is because the Supporters/Stadiums in pre D&P sets say Trainer. Post D&P cards that say Trainer get any TRAINER. NOT any Supports/Stadiums. This is because the Supporters/Stadiums in these sets onward say Supporter/Stadium not Trainer like in Pre D&P sets. So in this way Pokemon in post D&P sets see Supporters/Stadiums as Supporters/Stadiums NOT Trainers.
     
  5. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    In most cases I meant to write 2HKO instead of OHKO. Everyone keeps saying OHKO so I get used to it...

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    Well...

    Since all Pre-DP cards that were supporters and stadiums etc. counted as trainers...
    If a DP onward card asks you to search for a trainer...
    All Pre-DP cards satisfy the conditions.

    In other words...

    If a DP-on card says to search for a trainer, it means IMO to search for:

    "Any card that has Trainer in the top left corner of the card." Excerpt LavaFlow Rulebook.

    Let us agree to disagree.

    In any case, we have a Professor coming over to league in a couple of days so I can double check with her.

    Besides, if I am wrong, Stantler/Chimecho can't search for normal tainers and I can just chuck in a couple of Scotts.

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    As you may(or may not) have noticed I am more interested in your opinions on Nidoqueen, what other PokeTools and if you think the deck works.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2008
  6. garlade 07

    garlade 07 New Member

    are you a jouinor, senior, or master
     
  7. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    Napoleon:

    What did she say?
     
  8. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    Budew can't get old Supporters. You always have to treat the cards as if they were just printed in the most recent set due to any erratas. If an old Supporter, for example Castaway, were printed in a post-DP set, it would have "Supporter" in the top-left corner. It's just like using old Mysterious Fossils; since they got reprinted with 50 HP, the old ones have 50 HP instead of 10.

    Those extra slots need to be draw because you have none.
     
  9. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    Thank you for saying that. I will change my Budews to Stantler.

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    That isn't info that I need to provide to the whole world.

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    ToxicTaipan, the Prof is coming over tomorrow.

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    Such as...?

    I have 1 TVR.
    I wish there was something like Pot of Greed from Yu-Gi-Oh! in Pokemon.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2008
  10. piplup guy

    piplup guy New Member

    restart the deck !
     
  11. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Y'know, Mawile from CG might be a better starter. Mawile CAN get any trainer from the pre-DP area, so that includes your tools. Mawile can even instantly attach them.
     
  12. Dark Ninja

    Dark Ninja New Member

    Why don't I see 4 Castaway?
     
  13. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    Napoleon:
    Tell me what she says....
     
  14. AgentP

    AgentP New Member

    Since you are using Delta Species Pokemon, why not use Holon's Castform instead of Budew/Chingling/Stanler? You can use delta draw on your first few turns, use the extra Castforms as energies.

    It's just a thought.
     
  15. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    Pretty much the same thing as mrdraz.

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    I have none. AND I won't be getting any because no-one has them.
    I can just play 2 Budew and 2 Stantler.

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    Because I have enough searchers e.g. Ledian and i can just drop a bunch of draw cards in to thin the deck.

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    I definitely would if I had some.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2008
  16. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toxictaipan
    Napoleon: Tell me what she says....

    Pretty much the same thing as mrdraz


    That means the same thing I said........
     
  17. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    Yeah, pretty much except that she said any Pre-DP card that is a Trainer/Support etc. all come into the group "Trainer" but if a card that is from DP refers to a Trainer it means a Trainer "Trainer" not a Supporter"Trainer".

    If you don't get it, join the club.
     
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