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Question about 2014-2015 VGC Rules

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I was reading over the rules for 2015 VCG Tournaments and I noticed something or at less I could not find it. A list of Pokemon that are Banned.
Last time Mewtwo, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, and Diancie were banned but I am unable to find this list under the current rules posted.

Does this mean they are legal now or is there a mess up on the rules on pokemon.com
 
When the 2015 Winter Regionals arrive, the rules will reflect any changes that are made to accomodate the release of the ORAS games. Until then, the '14 pre-ORAS rules still ban the use of Mewtwo, Yveltal, Zygarde, Xerneas, and Diance.
 
Benzo said:
When the 2015 Winter Regionals arrive, the rules will reflect any changes that are made to accomodate the release of the ORAS games. Until then, the '14 pre-ORAS rules still ban the use of Mewtwo, Yveltal, Zygarde, Xerneas, and Diance.
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I looked up on Pokemon.com as well for the rules and they did not list any banned Pokemon. Not sure why this would change but maybe they are looking into a different rule set. I would still say use 2014 rules.

On a side note, I want to see the Kalos Native rule to go away. No need for it to exist.
 
As an idea/suggestion to TPCI, (and this being said based on the current trend of a "last quarter yearly new games release date") that since the new games are used in the following year for Events:

Just make the format rules "single year"- like the next format is just 2015. Drop the combined years matter.

I know TPCI starts their year in September, but VGC wise the newest games don't get use until after the new year anyways.

Until the ORAS game Pokedex is fully revealed (assuming that we can count on the original Ruby/Saphire dex being the same in ORAS)- it could be very well that the new dex and X/Y dex will be combined, meaning that Kalos Native Pokemon will be able for use in the '14/'15 format.

IIrc- "Native" (blue pentagon symbol) is a way to reduce hacks. If you transfer them over to the new games, then there should be no reason to not allow them into the next/new format. As how I see it anyways.

Allowing the previous game's dex to be joined with the new will allow a larger pool of Pokemon to be used.

Side note -

If the newest rules do exclude the current ban list, this could mean that they want to promote mascot legendarys for a boost in the competitive scene. If so, we'll see a restriction list instead of a banned list. BW remakes confirmed! (<jk, of course)

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As an idea/suggestion to TPCI, (and this being said based on the current trend of a "last quarter yearly new games release date") that since the new games are used in the following year for Events:

Just make the format rules "single year"- like the next format is just 2015. Drop the combined years matter.

I know TPCI starts their year in September, but VGC wise the newest games don't get use until after the new year anyways.

Until the ORAS game Pokedex is fully revealed (assuming that we can count on the original Ruby/Saphire dex being the same in ORAS)- it could be very well that the new dex and X/Y dex will be combined, meaning that Kalos Native Pokemon will be able for use in the '14/'15 format.

IIrc- "Native" (blue pentagon symbol) is a way to reduce hacks. If you transfer them over to the new games, then there should be no reason to not allow them into the next/new format. As how I see it anyways.

Allowing the previous game's dex to be joined with the new will allow a larger pool of Pokemon to be used.

Side note -

If the newest rules do exclude the current ban list, this could mean that they want to promote mascot legendarys for a boost in the competitive scene. If so, we'll see a restriction list instead of a banned list. BW remakes confirmed! (<jk, of course)
 
Lol. I just don't like the native rule because of how long its takes to raise pokemon. With school, a movie project and work, I just dont have time to rebreed pokemon. Plus heat wave pidgeot and zapdos are nice.
 
Actually, the rules do include "banned" Pokemon - just not by name.

"Players may only use Pokémon from the Central Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #150, Coastal Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #153, or Mountain Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #147."

This list excludes Diancie (Central #151), Xerneas (Mountain #148), Yveltal (Mountain #149), Zygarde (Mountain #150) and Mewtwo (Mountain #151) because of their dex numbers.
 
FincastlePokemon2 said:
Actually, the rules do include "banned" Pokemon - just not by name.

"Players may only use Pokémon from the Central Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #150, Coastal Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #153, or Mountain Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #147."

This list excludes Diancie (Central #151), Xerneas (Mountain #148), Yveltal (Mountain #149), Zygarde (Mountain #150) and Mewtwo (Mountain #151) because of their dex numbers.
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Thats a bit too complicated. Not even I know the Pokedex that way. Its far easier for everyone to just see the list of pokemon they can't use by name.
 
vaporeon said:
Thats a bit too complicated. Not even I know the Pokedex that way. Its far easier for everyone to just see the list of pokemon they can't use by name.
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Trust me, I don't know the Pokedex either - but I imagine that excluding the list is to simplify the process of updating the rules. For example, when they first issued Kalos-based rules (January '14 or so) - no one "knew" about Diancie yet. So calling it out by name would be a no-no, but omitting it would mean having to re-issue the rules when Diancie was discovered/announced.
 
I don't mind the Kalos bred, blue pentagon, rule. The only thing this really removes is move tutor moves, which could lead to OR/AS bringing some move tutors back.

It really does not take that long to breed anymore if you have a group of friends that breed also.

With the Destiny Knot and time machine breeding you can really breed a 5x31 IV Pokémon within 1-3 eggs.

I have a pretty deep collection of IV bred and I have two Ditto with 4x31 IVs that really speeds up breeding time.

I would look into time machine breeding if you are looking to speed the breeding process up further.
 
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