Refreshed Penguin

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by jrwaxman, Mar 3, 2008.

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  1. jrwaxman

    jrwaxman New Member

    I have been working with Empoleon most of the season and have tried many versions. Biggest issue I tend to have is hand size. Now that Pachirisu is around playing Cessation with him is not a good thing. As much as I like Palkia I think Claydol is too important for consistency and they do not work together.

    Here is my list.

    Pokemon- 19
    1- Pachirisu
    4-4-4 Empoleon
    2-2 Claydol
    1-1 Xatu

    Trainers- 26
    2- Night Maintenance
    3- Steven's
    3- Roseanne's
    4- Plus Power
    3- Rare Candy
    2- Wager
    1- Copycat
    4- Celio's
    2- Windstorm
    1- Warp Point
    1- Switch

    Energy- 15

    Go aggressive with Empoleon spreading damage where needed and using Claydol to build the bench. Xatu helps move conditions, snipes and hits G&G for weakness. I find the plus powers really help in this build. The windstorms are mostly for Cessation and Crystal Beach. Good match up with Mag and my games with G&G seem to be about even. Unknown G is the one thing I would like to work in.

    Any thoughts?
  2. PokePockets

    PokePockets New Member

    Looking good. I would make these two changes

    -2 Prinplup (if you are playing Candy, you probably don't need this many.)
    -1 Swtich
    +1 Warp Point
    +1 Roseanne's
    +1 Steven's
  3. ThePokeDex

    ThePokeDex New Member

    y would u ever get rid of prinplup its 1 enrgy for 10 to all and 2 for 40 its so good
  4. PokePockets

    PokePockets New Member

    Because if he is going to play Rare Candy to skip the Prinplup in the first place then it's just a waste of deck space IMO
  5. jrwaxman

    jrwaxman New Member

    Prinplup is too important early game not to get him up and the rare candlies help keep getting out Empoleon late game since it is the only fighting line.

    RanDOMINATOR New Member

    WRONG cess is good if you can play it right. My best deck runs cess and it went 3-1 at states (I was late)
  7. Hatter™

    Hatter™ Active Member

    i wouldnt add cess, or if u do, just 1
    and add the thoy engine too...
  8. jrwaxman

    jrwaxman New Member

    I gave in last weekend and played CC with a Mismagius tech. Hand size killed me and when I ran into Pachirisu it was a nightmare.
  9. yuki_potsd

    yuki_potsd New Member

    i would work in Emp lvX for disruption.
  10. pistolpetepeterson

    pistolpetepeterson New Member

    drop prinplup by 1 and swap 1 empolion for the X. also up the patch id try and work in 2 G's if you really want to to protect your penguin agenst stat decks
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