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  1. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    When I saw some of the first scans for dp4 I saw the beedrill and I was like, "I have to make this deck!!"
    Heres the list I came up with. So far it has done well against many decks.

    Pokemon: 18

    4-4-4 Beedrill GE
    2-2 claydol GE
    1-0-1 duskinoir

    Trainers: 30

    4 Rare Candy
    4 Plus Power
    2 bebe's
    1 celios
    4 master ball
    3 Crystal Beach
    3 Great ball
    2 warp point
    2 Night Maintenance
    2 Team Galactic's Wager
    2 Steven's Advice
    1 TSD

    Energy: 12

    9 Grass energy
    3 Multi energy

    Lets start off by taking a look at some of the cards!!~~~~


    Beedrill GE: Beedrill is the main attacker in the deck. The goal with him is to get as many set up as you can, then be hitting for 30-120 a turn.

    Claydol GE: Claydol is basicly in here for support. Because you run little draw power he is a nice addition into the deck, it also counters absol somewhat. You cna also go agro with him in some situations.

    Duskinoir: Dusknoir is an awesome tech in this deck, when your opponent is loading up there bench, shuffle one back with dusknior then swarm beedrills!


    Rare Candy: Rare candy is a must have in this deck because you rely on getting the beedrills out as fast as you can!

    Plus Power/Strength Charm: Plus powers help the deck a ton. Incase you don't have enough beedrills on the feild to do massive amounts of dmg, it helps you KO some pokemon still. Also, when you have 4 beedrills set-up, adding a plus power can knock-out about everything that is being played in the format.

    Crystal Beach: These will kill decks that rely on double rainbow energy or boost like Gardilade and Blissy.

    Roseanne's Research: These are mainly used to get energy, but they work nicely to get your basics too.

    Night Maintenance: These get back the killed beedrills and weedles. If they get knocked out early in the game your screwed for late game. (I would like to add in TSD's too, but I have none.)

    Team Galactic's Wager: These go along the disruption of absol, and it can also hurt your oppenent a ton when they have a great hand.

    Steven's Advice: The only draw power in your deck. But it works great with claydol because you'll always have 6 cards in your hand.

    Scott: This gets your needed crystal beach and trainers.


    Blissy Varients: 50-50. With blissy having a massive hp, you'll need 4 beedrills set-up pretty fast. But with claydols help swarming beedrills, the match is still winnable.

    Gardilade: 60-40. This deck actually seems to do suprisingly well against Gardilade. With absol as a start you hurt there chanses of getting a gardivoir or gallade set up early. But still it is a very hard match to win. But with beach it is a good possibility to win.

    Hurricane: 60-40. You should have an easy time against Hurricane. Hurricane cant stand much against beedrill once it gets going..

    I'll include more match-ups later. Any way thanks for looking at my thread and enjoy, any comments and suggestions are always welcome.
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2008
  2. PokePockets

    PokePockets New Member

    Looks like a pretty intersting deck. I would probably test this against Magmortar if your taking it to states however. My changes to this deck would be.

    -2 Castaway
    -1 Strength Charm

    +1 Steven's Advice
    +1 Scott
    +1 Roseanne's Research
  3. Dennis Hawk

    Dennis Hawk New Member

    If there's any room to spare, you might try to tech in 1-0-1 Nidoqueen d or Meganium d. Should help to get those beedrills rolling.
  4. Charizard1987

    Charizard1987 New Member

    your deck seems depend on claydol a lot. Add in some windstorm to blow away cessation crystal..
  5. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Pokepockets, thanks for the advice. Yeah, I will have to test it out against magmorter on redshark. I think I'll take out a castaway and try to fit in something else.

    Dennis Hawk, I like the idea, the problem is, if I prize the queen or the nidoran it will be 2 empty spot. And ussualy the claydol fill the spot of queen somewhat, it runs through your deck to get the beedrills. But I might try a version with a 2-1-2 queen line.

    Charizard1987, the only problem about adding windstorm is that theres not a lot of room to add it in. You need a lot of stuff to get this deck up and running.

    Thanks for the comments!~~~
  6. XYZ_Sniper

    XYZ_Sniper New Member

    ever thought of a tech claydoll ex to make galade match up 50-50 or more
  7. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    XYZ_sniper, That could possibly work, thanks for the idea.
  8. pichu bros. rox

    pichu bros. rox New Member

    claydol ex wouldnt help the matchup. gardy 1hko or cresselia x for 3 prizes
  9. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Pichu bors. rox, Thanks for the heads up on that fact. Adding a tech claydol ex would help against galade and blissy, but it would hurt you because your opponent gets an extra prize..
  10. empoleonperson

    empoleonperson Active Member

    iono how 60-40 against hurricane either way the claydol version beats you as long as they get a fast claydol i dont really no because i dont use that version
    the delcatty magneton version should beat it most of the time as long as they setup with a delcatty and they'll be 1hko your beedrils everyturn

    but nice list!
  11. Flareon

    Flareon New Member

    I really think you need at least three Kakuna.
  12. skarmory777

    skarmory777 New Member

    I played speedrill back in the FR/LG days. As much as id love to see speedrill make a comeback it doesnt do as much damage and with absol in the format its even more impossible to get all 4 of them out.
  13. Let Fire Fall

    Let Fire Fall New Member

    Absol doesn't fit into every deck. Especially this one.

    Take it out and replace it for something that will actually help you set up multiple Beedrill.
  14. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    empoleonperson, thank you for the input on my match-up against hurricane. So far I've tested the deck against the version that runs claydol. And it seems to win more often then lose.

    Flareon, I'm not sure what adding in one more kakuna can do for me, but I am mostly relying on rare candy.

    Skarmory777, with an absol format it is indeed hard to get all your beedrills set up, but utilizing absol helps buy time to get as much set up as you can, same with claydol.

    Let Fire Fall, Absol is probaly the best starter in here, it does actually help set up multiple beedrill because it buys me time by disrupting my opponent to set up the beedrills. And please don't bash on me using absol in a lot of my stage 2 decks which you do in almost every thread, because in this format if your running a stage 2 deck it will set-up slower then what it should in this format... Using absol helps that problem, especially against t2 decks that rely on speed.
  15. Let Fire Fall

    Let Fire Fall New Member

    You know what, you're right. I'm going to use Absol in Magmortar now because I can stall long enough to set up all my Delcatty and Typhlosion.

    Now that I think about it, bring back Metanite so I can use Absol in there too instead of Castform. Maybe I can buy time with it to set up Dragonite and Metagross too.

    yeah....absol is definitely the best starter
  16. hectagonman

    hectagonman New Member

    I don't see why you don't just run a 4-4-4 with a T2 engine.
  17. MrMeches

    MrMeches New Member

    P_C, another nice deck. Wynaut try the Pory/Dol engine for a faster setup?? Just make the 4 Absol a 2-2 Pory2 Line this way you can get the multiple Supporter usage which will help with setting up Beedrill a bit faster and reset them whne you lose one... Just a thought!
  18. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Let Fire Fall, wow I'm not dumb enough to say it works in every deck. I said IN THIS FORMAT because everything relies on speed.

    Hectogonman, I already tried doing that and it is way less consistent and gets torn apart by absol.

    MrMeches, Thanks! I like claydol in this deck because there isn't a lot of supporters in here and usually you have little to no cards in your hand allowing you to utilize claydol a bunch.
  19. (TYranitarFReak)

    (TYranitarFReak) New Member

    Well, you should put in pachi as your starter. It's always nice to set up fast and go wild on your opponent.
  20. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    I was thinking about pachi, but I personally prefer absol. Even if you don't start with absol you have weedle to call for family.
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