So you want to play in UK Nationals....

[NoPoke]

This link shows Fares as having 5 play points.

https://www.pokemon.com/us/account/...location=175&type=cycle_pp&cycle=9&page_1=7#1

Fares is not on the list. Played in 2 states, and account is now active. Ty.

States was back in March. I remember reminding you to check your accounts on the day. It is now nearly June, there should be time to get it fixed but you need to act now. I will be going solely from the data that is on the pokemon.com website,

Fares isn't on the list because he has only played in one states according to the data from the pokemon.com site. Fares needs to contact the TO for the missing tournament and find out what player ID he used on the day. He needs to do this with some urgency because there is very little time before nationals.

Players are responsible for the accuracy of the data on the website. Players are responsible for the player ID they use on the day. This is the text from the what to do link below every player's tournament record.

Frequently Asked Questions
Pokémon Support > Pokémon Trading Card Game > Play! Pokémon > I recently participated in a Premier event, and my rating and/or match record is wrong. What should I do?

First, use Pokémon.com to find the tournament you participated in. Contact the Tournament Organizer of record for the event and report the problem to him or her.


If the issue is related to your record during the tournament, the Tournament Organizer will then contact Pokémon Organized Play to have the record corrected for that match. If the Tournament Organizer does not respond to you within three days, submit a support request at support.pokemon.com, with the subject “Match Record Appeal” and the Organized Play team will do what it can to assist you. Please note that without confirmation from the Tournament Organizer, Pokémon Organized Play may be unable to make any changes to a match record.

 

[amphyrules]

I find this all so silly. You attended both those States yourself! You watched and commented over the games he and I played, there is no question that he has enough points. I've messaged Russell regardless, but this is just additional and unnecessary stress during exam period..

 

[NoPoke]

I find it silly that players expect me to fix problems that they should be taking care of themselves. It is very likely that Fares is not the only player in this situation. It is NEVER MY PROBLEM if a player uses the wrong player ID and/or does not check their record. I find it silly that players are so quick to try and pass the buck.

Right now Fares has 5 points. HE needs to get it fixed. I do not have any of the paper work for the missing event so I DO NOT KNOW what the problem is other than he is currently not qualified for nationals. The TO has the paperwork . It does not matter if I was there, players are not suddenly allowed to be lazy with their accounts because I might be at an event.

It is the players responsibility to ensure that their tournament record is correct.

 

[amphyrules]

I find it silly that players expect me to fix problems that they should be taking care of themselves. It is very likely that Fares is not the only player in this situation. It is NEVER MY PROBLEM if a player uses the wrong player ID and/or does not check their record. I find it silly that players are so quick to try and pass the buck.

Right now Fares has 5 points. HE needs to get it fixed. I do not have any of the paper work for the missing event so I DO NOT KNOW what the problem is other than he is currently not qualified for nationals. The TO has the paperwork . It does not matter if I was there, players are not suddenly allowed to be lazy with their accounts because I might be at an event.

It is the players responsibility to ensure that their tournament record is correct.

I didn't expect such a melodramatic response!

I don't want to argue, or even really discuss this matter further than need be. I have messaged Russell as you have instructed, via the pretty polite Facebook messages we've exchanged! I hope he messages me back, and it all gets sorted out. What is it that I need from him though? In order to fix the issue etc

I do hope however the 'lazy' jab wasn't directed at Fares, but was perhaps a warning to players that you are not willing to perform what they may wrongly assume is your duty as the head of OP in the UK. He had other, more important matters to attend to. Education and family take precedent over a mere hobby, as i'm sure they do in the NoPoke household. He thought everything was okay and that he had no issues, once he had travelled all the way to Bournemouth to collect his 5 play points (totaling 10).

Thanks for the help, and I hope this is all sorted soon.

Best wishes,

Sami

 

[NoPoke]

As per my earlier post

First, use Pokémon.com to find the tournament you participated in. Contact the Tournament Organizer of record for the event and report the problem to him or her.

You know what the problem is so tell the TO. The TO has the paperwork, the TO is best placed to resolve the issue.

and in the even earlier post which is duplicated at the top of the thread

.....then ask what Player ID they used

Players do use more than one ID
Players do forget their IDs
Players don't always write their player ID clearly (#1 problem in my experience is legibility)
Players sometimes make up a player ID.
The TOM operator can make errors too when entering the information for the first time
pick one or several from the above list. There are very likely more ways that incorrect IDs can be used. The player ID used on the day is printed on every single match slip as well as stored on the TOs computer.

So even though you want to label my statement as melodramatic the fact remains that

It is the players responsibility to ensure that their tournament record is correct​

any resulting melodrama is of the players own making.

 

[yeniths]

No way should the amount of play points be increased for next year! that's ridiculous! UK has it bad enough as it is.

 

[Rap Tor]

No way should the amount of play points be increased for next year! that's ridiculous! UK has it bad enough as it is.

Really, coz 10 seemed like nothing really. No idea how people would of struggled to get 10. A states gives you 5 or something, that is half way.

 

[Eirror]

I've always thought that Nationals seemed like the ideal opportunity to introduce a prospective new Pokémon player into a world of fun and competitive tournaments. There are sure to be newcomers on the day, as there always are (though I can't vouch for every year). How come we're missing this out. Seems like it won't help expand the playerbase.

 

[NoPoke]

The number of UK masters with 10 or more play points continues to creep upwards (currently 116 according to the pokemon.com website)

I'm sure there are a few more who JUST have to log in and activate their pokemon.com accounts to be included.

 

[NoPoke]

Professors who qualified though organiser activity added.

Still looks like there are a few players yet to actually log in to the pokemon.com site.

Masters qualified list now at 128. Seniors at 52.

One last chance for Championship Points before nationals at the new venue in Shoreham-on-sea this Sunday.

 

[pokemandan]

No way should the amount of play points be increased for next year! that's ridiculous! UK has it bad enough as it is.

I definitely agree with this. It has been tough for some people I know to get points to play in Nationals and have actually forked out a lot of money to go to ridiculously far off tournaments just to get the points to play in the biggest tournament of the year.

I actually dislike the whole idea of Play Points anyway. UK Nationals was the first tournament I went to and if there had been a PP limit there, I would have never been bothered enough to play this awesome game.

I say ditch PPs, at least in the UK as I know other countries don't have a PP limit since UK Nats gives new players the chance to go to a great event and get into it for FREE.

 

[NoPoke]

CPs instead then

 

[yeniths]

Well said Dan .

 

[Raen]

I'm sure this is an unwanted outsider perspective, but still.

I find do, admittedly, find it odd that you guys there in the UK are using a Play! Point requirement for your Nationals. I find it even stranger that you are using the same Play! Point requirement that we are using here in the United States. Here, we have a lot more events that are a lot easier to get to. Here, it is extremely easy to get 10 Play! Points. Heck, attend league and a States and bam, you've got it. I'm sure it's not THAT much harder to get them there in the UK, but still. Why not 8? Or 5?

Plus, the primary reason we have the requirement here is to help registration go smoother and stop people from mass dropping before the tournament even starts. For us, leaving out 100 or so players doesn't really affect our tourney, either (considering we will have 900+ players in Masters alone regardless). But in the UK, where your Nats is smaller than the larger Regionals here in the US, leaving out even 50 players that might normally play or might want to play really, really hurts your attendance. Is that your intent? Is that what you want? Do you not have the means/staff to run a larger event? If so, I understand, but I really just don't understand your reason for using the P!P requirement.

Unless, of course, you were required to.

 

[Liz R]

I think part of the reasoning is to help registration. I'm only a player but the last couple of years registration seems to have taken longer than it might with new players requiring signing up for POP ID's etc and existing players having incorrect or wrong ID's. As we only have a one day event this then impacts on the whole thing with top cut and finals getting very late (last year they actually ran out of time at the venue).

We're not a huge country so I think if you want to play at Nationals it's probably not unreasonable for the older players to be expected to travel to just a couple of events during the course of a year. What we could do with is a better spread of leagues throughout the country so we didn't have pockets where players to have a long journey to get to any league or event.

 

[Raen]

I think part of the reasoning is to help registration. I'm only a player but the last couple of years registration seems to have taken longer than it might with new players requiring signing up for POP ID's etc and existing players having incorrect or wrong ID's. As we only have a one day event this then impacts on the whole thing with top cut and finals getting very late (last year they actually ran out of time at the venue).

We're not a huge country so I think if you want to play at Nationals it's probably not unreasonable for the older players to be expected to travel to just a couple of events during the course of a year. What we could do with is a better spread of leagues throughout the country so we didn't have pockets where players to have a long journey to get to any league or event.

Ah, that is indeed a reason I did not think of. Thanks for the insight!

Don't Seniors also need to meet the Play Point requirement as well? That's the one that seems a bit unnecessary to me. It think (even the the US) that both Juniors and Seniors ought to be exempt.

 

[Liz R]

Yes, I'd agree that it is hard on those who are dependent on parents taking them to events to qualify.

 

[NoPoke]

If it were not possible to qualify without attending a Regional then 10 points would be too high.
If it were not possible to qualify without attending a City Championship then 10 points would be too high.
If it were not possible to qualify without attending a Battle Road then 10 points would be too high.

The reality is that it is possible to qualify using only League and Release events this year with a few players doing just that.

[ It was actually possible to qualify with a mix of league and local tournaments . I'm not aware of anyone using that route this year but it was still possible].