Swift Empoleon (new and improved)

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  1. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    I was looking at the Swift Empoleon deck that got second at worlds, then I saw that corsola was the core tech. I thought how could I rebuild such a deck? Then, looking at Great Encounters, I found a way to make it around.... 30% faster. You see, the Corsola got the Emp evo you needed that turn. Phione takes the 1 turn wait and makes it a no turn wait. It's even possible to have a T2 Empoleon! Now that's what I call good. The problem is, I have a couple ideas about this deck that I'm afraid to try. 1, should I tech in an Absol ex to spread damage, and 2, should I add 1 Empoleon lv.X? I was thinking no because cessations are really good near my meta-game. But on average, what do you guys (and girls) think? Here's a list idea. Okay, I lied. I have one more question. Should I add rare candy?

    Pokemon:
    4 Empoleon
    ? Prinplup
    4 Piplup
    4 Phione

    Trainers:
    4 Cessation
    3 Castaway
    3 POV
    4-3 Celio's
    ? rare candy?
    3 Roseanne's research
    3 Buffer piece

    Energy:
    3 DRE
    3 Scramble
    8 Water

    Once again, I see the deck perfect as it is, and techs are sorta risky with me because of my luck. So as you can see this is pretty much Swift Empoleon, just swifta! What do you think? People have been saying the new palkia is pretty good. I think it is, just not for my deck. This is more of a speed/disruption deck. I've playing something similar, and it works pretty well. Maybe I'm just good with these kind of decks. But any and all help is greatly appriciated because this might be my states deck!:biggrin:
     
  2. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member


    Fixed it up for ya!
     
  3. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    You only got 58 cards, so I think I'll crank the cessation up to 3. But other than that, I love it!
     
  4. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    No im pretty sure thats 60 slots, recount.
     
  5. MrMeches

    MrMeches New Member

    You only have 16 POKES in there, so it is 58!

    Not a bad list... have you tried it out using proxies for Phione??
     
  6. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    Not yet, I was going to try that today.
     
  7. bonslypwns

    bonslypwns New Member

    Yes... it's ok. But you get everything when you don't need it.:/ But overall not bad.
     
  8. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    Thanks. Oh, I can't find any Empoleons in my brothers stuff! You lied to me.
     
  9. Dendrobatida

    Dendrobatida New Member

    Ladies and gentlemen, please keep the conversation focused upon critique/improvement of the deck at hand. Thanks.

    -Dendro
     
  10. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    Sorry. In other news, my deck is 3-0 against legendary ascent!
     
  11. kristi

    kristi New Member

    i built somethin just like this except i played 4 prinplup and 1 candy. empoleons evos are so good for the deck that i just played like 4 quick ball to get them out fast
     
  12. mewlover777

    mewlover777 New Member

    What's legendary ascent and how does thisdeck do against decks like DWD or blissey, magplosion, or gardilade? jwing
     
  13. KAZUTO!!!

    KAZUTO!!! New Member

    Legendary Ascent is the deck that won Worlds in the Masters Division.

    Anyway, go with Prize Card's list, just you have 2 free spots you can use for other things, like maybe another Roseanne's or Cessation.

    Good luck with it.
     
  14. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Sorry i thought i had 18 pokemons lolz :p
     
  15. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    That's okay, plus I am using PC's list. I need to test it against decks like DWD, blissey, ect. I would, but the only other deck I have right now is magplosion, and I don't find that fair against Empoleon...
     
  16. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Try downloading redshark off pokebeach.com it has a lot of cards in data base((its like a computer deck building, playing type thing)... beside the phione and new cards.. or u can try using proxys.. for separate decks. Also after reveiwing the deck list i posted for you, see how the deck runs with these changes (I'm adding the 2 cards I missed in the list also):

    -1 castaway (3 was to much)
    -1 celios (if you start out with phione which you should, you aren't going to need 4)

    +1 cessation crystal (its good to have a back up if your playing with a deck that uses powers.)
    + 2 night maintenance/or 1 NM 1 TSD (Only having 1 line of pokemon might be a problem, when you run out you basically lose, 2 night maintenance will help you a lot later game.)

    +1 Tech card, Can't think of what else to add, be creative play around with the deck, see what your weaknesses are and what your pros are.. then add in something that helps you around those categories.
     
  17. Dark-Moltres

    Dark-Moltres New Member

    whats phione do and wheres it from???
     
  18. vorg7

    vorg7 New Member

    Phione is from GE and it has an attack for 1 colorless energy that lets you search for a pokemon that evolves from one of your bench pokemon and play it.
     
  19. SuicidalPikachu

    SuicidalPikachu New Member

    its Basicaly Jirachi HL w/ 10 less hp.
     
  20. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    When I'm playing the Legendary Ascent deck, I noticed that Ihave a shortage of cessations. What should I do?
     
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