T2 Kabutops

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  1. arcane

    arcane New Member

    Well I was thinking of the perfect lock and I remembered Kabutops that's coming out.
    It's pokepower stops your opponent from using trainers. How awesome is that?! But the
    catch or rather "catches" are the clarification on "trainers" and that kabutops has to remain active. But anyway, one would have to get him out T2 so your opponent has only one turn max to utilize their trainers... And here's how:

    Pokemon (12):
    1 kabuto PK
    2 kabuto (spoiler below)
    4 Kabutops (spolier below)
    2 Omanyte (spolier below)
    2 Omastar (spoiler below)
    1 Aerodactyl (spoiler below)
    1 Relicath

    Trainers (31):
    3 Fossil excavator
    4 Dome fossil (spoiler below)
    2 Helix fossil (spoiler below)
    2 Holon Fossil
    2 Professor Oak's visit
    4 Professor Birch
    2 Team galactica's wager
    4 Quick ball
    4 Pokenav
    2 Warp point


    Energy (17):
    4 double rainbow energy
    8 Fighting energy
    5 Water Energy


    STRAT:
    Alright in this deck you can only start with either root fossil or helix fossil (Big advantage!). Ideally you would want to start with root fossil, attach a fighting energy from your hand, search your deck for Kabuto and play it on top of root fossil like an evolution (with the fossil power), then use it's pokepower if it's heads to grab helix fossil, then if it's the 2nd turn of the game then use either master ball, fossil excavator, etc. to grab kabutops, and if it's the first turn the just attack for 20. And next turn you evolve kabuto to kabutops and lock the opponent while you build up your kabutop's attack (double rainbow to speed that up).

    Okay so that's the ideal situation. But the great part about this deck is that even if you start with helix fossil your lock set up is still amazingly fast! So, if you start with helix fossil you can take one of few routes:
    1. you could use trainers such as holon fossil to grab kabuto or fossil excavator to grab dome fossil and then attach energy to kabuto or dome fossil (which will turn into kabuto) and simply discard the helix fossil active to get kabutops quicker in active...
    2. you could attach a water energy, search your deck for omanyte and play it on top of helix fossil, then you use your trainers to set up a kabuto on bench. Next turn you evolve kabuto to kabutops and retreat omanyte for 1 energy (better if your versing a stage 2 evolution deck cause omastar is almost ready)

    Now, why add omastar line if I'd want a fast as possible set up for kabutops? Here's the reason. First while you have your kabutops out the opponent ptobably will be able to pull off at least one evolution (and if it's a gallade then your kabutops might be in trouble). So here's where omastar comes in! Basically by playing it down you'll devolve ALL there evolutions by 1 stage. But the trick is that the power ONLY affects your opponent's bench, so an evolved active will not go back to his hand. So I added 2-3 warp points so that if need be you could devolve the pokemon in active position and return it to their hand. And now comes the awesome part! You use Team galactica's wager to return all those precious evolutions that they worked hard for back into their deck! Also both Kabutop's and omastar's attack allow for some possible sniping so that when another omastar comes out it may KO by the simple de-evolution(but if kabutops has a double raindbow it's sniping doesn't occur).

    Finally, Aerodactyl's point in this deck. Mostly a tech kind of thing also it's presence doesn't affect your start seeing as it is a stage 1. I'm not sure on using Aerodactyl d for it's energy acceleration to my hand because I do have two different kinds of energy in the deck and no castaways or roseanne's research. I was comtemplating on possibly using the other aerodactyl which place 2 damage counters on a pokemon each time your opponent's pokemon use pokepowers. Just a lock kind of against pokepowers deck and gardevoir/gallade I guess. Oh you get aerodactyl with holon fossil when you already have kabuto and omanyte out already or just want to hurt pokepowers early

    Also, you may be wondering why is there no rare candies in an only stage 2 deck?! Well I tested it and majority of the time you'll already have an omanyte or kabuto out because of the speed of the fossils and their powers. Basically this is a basic stage 1 deck (you essentially start at stage 1). So the candies are mostly useless. Oh and I was thinking of Cradily PK and Omastar alone as this kind of deck, but not sure yet. Because cradily can get you your omastar's so you could devolve their pokemon rapidly, but i don't know just another idea I guess...

    Finally, I'd like to end this deck with a few notes: Kabutops power will probably be debatable whether it works on some supporters and not others (for example the older sets are "trainers" but the newer ones are "supporters") but nonetheless it's still a cool deck idea and still stops a lot of things out there (rare candy, fishing engines)

    Looong Deck explanation.... : )

    Comments and advice really appreciated!


    SPOILERS:


    Kabuto L.38 – Fighting – HP80
    Stage 1 – Evolves from Dome Fossil

    Poke-Power: Primal Guidance
    This Power can be used once during your turn. Flip a coin, if heads search your deck
    for 1 Dome Fossil, Helix Fossil, or Old Amber card and put it on your Bench. Shuffle
    your deck afterward. This Power can’t be used if this Pokemon is affected by a Special
    Condition.

    [F] Shell Attack: 20 damage.

    Weakness: Grass (+20)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1



    Kabutops L.56 – Fighting – HP120
    Stage 2 – Evolves from Kabuto
    Poke-Body: Ancient Shell
    As long as this Pokemon is your Active Pokemon, your opponent can’t play any Trainer
    cards from his or her hand.

    [F][F][C] Chop Apart: 70 damage. This attack also does 10 damage to each of your
    opponent’s Benched Pokemon that already has damage counters on it.

    Weakness: Grass (+30)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 2


    Omanyte L.37 – Water – HP70
    Stage 1 – Evolves from Helix Fossil

    Poke-Power: Awaken
    This Power can be used once during your turn. Flip a coin, if heads search your discard pile for 1 Helix Fossil, Dome Fossil, or Old Amber card and put it on your Bench. This Power can’t be used if this Pokemon is affected by a Special Condition.

    [W][C] Overwave: 20 damage. This attack also does 10 damage to 2 of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon.

    Weakness: Grass (+20)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1



    Omastar L.53 – Water – HP110
    Stage 2 – Evolves from Omanyte

    Poke-Power: Ancient Spiral
    This Power can be used once, when you play this card from your hand to Evolve a
    Pokemon. De-Evolve each of your opponent’s Benched Evolved Pokemon by 1 stage. The
    Pokemon cards that are removed from De-Evolving are returned to your opponent’s hand.
    This Power can’t be used if you already used an Ancient Spiral Poke-Power during your
    turn.

    [W][C] Reject: 40 damage. Switch the Defending Pokemon with 1 of your opponent’s
    Benched Pokemon. Your opponent chooses the Benched Pokemon to switch.

    Weakness: Grass (+30)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1


    Aerodactyl L.44 – Colorless – HP80
    Stage 1 – Evolves from Old Amber

    Poke-Body: Ancient Claw:
    Whenever one of your opponent’s Pokemon uses a Poke-Power, after the effect resolves, place 2 damage counters on that Pokemon.

    [C][C] Supersonic: 30 damage. Flip a coin, if heads the Defending Pokemon is now Confused.

    Weakness: Lightning (+20)
    Resistance: Fighting (-20)
    Retreat: 1



    Dome Fossil – HP50
    Trainer

    Poke-Body: Rock Reaction
    During your turn, when you attach a Fighting Energy from your hand to this Pokemon,
    search your deck for 1 Evolution card that Evolves from this Pokemon and play it on
    top of this Pokemon (this counts as Evolving this Pokemon). Shuffle your deck
    afterward. This Body doesn’t work if Energy is attached as an effect of an attack or a
    Poke-Power.

    This card can be put into play as a Colorless-type Basic Pokemon (if this card is
    Knocked Out, your opponent draws a prize). This card can’t be affected by Special
    Conditions and can’t retreat. The owner of this card can discard this card at any time
    during his or her turn (in this case it doesn’t count as a Knocked Out Pokemon).


    Helix Fossil – HP50
    Trainer

    Poke-Body: Aqua Reaction
    During your turn, when you attach a Water Energy from your hand to this Pokemon,
    search your deck for 1 Evolution card that Evolves from this Pokemon and play it on
    top of this Pokemon (this counts as Evolving this Pokemon). Shuffle your deck
    afterward. This Body doesn’t work if Energy is attached as an effect of an attack or a
    Poke-Power.

    This card can be put into play as a Colorless-type Basic Pokemon (if this card is
    Knocked Out, your opponent draws a prize). This card can’t be affected by Special
    Conditions and can’t retreat. The owner of this card can discard this card at any time
    during his or her turn (in this case it doesn’t count as a Knocked Out Pokemon).
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2008
  2. KAZUTO!!!

    KAZUTO!!! New Member

    -1 Proffessor Birch
    +1 Kabuto PK

    Hope I helped.
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2008
  3. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Well I like your idea on this deck. Looks like fun! But when I saw the aradactyl I was like I should play shiftry ex cg with this! 4 dmg counters for using a power. and dont play cessation in here it shuts yourself off...arceus999 must've not read through the pokemon.. How does holon wp deafeat galade? please explain.
     
  4. KAZUTO!!!

    KAZUTO!!! New Member

    Hollon WP stops Gallade from using Sonic Blade, and Psychic Cut can is limited... just an idea I thought MIGHT work an hour ago. And yeah I forgot this deck uses :ppowr: so don't run Holon WP or Cessation and get in Aerodactyl. I'll edit my post.
     
  5. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    Play 4 candy and also do you mean dome fossil not root. Also you do know that PK kabuto cant evolve from dome fossil, same with omanyte and there is no way to get aerodactyle
     
  6. RexRazor

    RexRazor New Member

    Dome and Helix states that "search your deck for 1 Evolution card that Evolves from this Pokemon and play it on
    top of this Pokemon"


    Kabuto PK, Omanyte PK and Aerodactyl d evolves from Mysterious Fossil, I think they can't be used to evolve from Dome, Helix or Old Amber...
     
  7. (TYranitarFReak)

    (TYranitarFReak) New Member

    Nice deck idea. Gotta switch to fishing engine in order to get T2 kabutops (evo problem).
     
  8. arcane

    arcane New Member

    Blaziken 1111 & rexrazor- yea i seee your point the omanyte PK, kabuto PK might not be able to utilize dome and helix fossil...alright gonna switch the list from PK to the newer ones...or can i stick with the PK ones and have mysterious fossil alone or with dome?, which one do you guys think will be faster... i'm leaning towards the newer ones (dome and helix) because of the fossils' speedy start.

    (TYranitarFReak)- i kinda don't have room seeing as i need wagers, warp points, rare candies, and excavators... but maybe i can lower wagers or others? not sure


    So basically should i have the newer fossil and omanyte/kabuto set up or stick with "fast evolution" one with PK omanyte/kabuto but with newer kabutops/omastar?

    Thanks for clarification guys!
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2008
  9. APC_doc

    APC_doc New Member

    You should try to make room for 4 Holon Fossils and 2 Aerodactyl GE, without the Old Amber. Wwith this, you're pretty sure to begin with the right Fossil.
    IMO, cut your Warp Point and TGW and Candy lines to do this.
     
  10. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    also take out the DREs because they stop the spred on kabutops
     
  11. Drich

    Drich New Member

    Without DRE, it's not T2 Kabutops anymore...
     
  12. arcane

    arcane New Member

    APC_doc- holon fossil's a great idea! thanks! Definitely helps with the set up and the professor birch draw engine thing. Oh so should i have the new aerodactyl or aerodactyl d? i'm now going towards the new one cause i can use it's attack to stall a turn if necessary and hindering powers is another lock added. BUt i think 1 is more than enough since it'll just sit there on my bench

    Blaziken 1111- yea i might not want to sacrfice speed for spread damage... Plus majority of the time the spread never happens

    Drich- yea i was just contemplating between scramble and double rainbow and yea i think double a must for the speed and the T2 OHKO on absol too
     
  13. Martinek

    Martinek New Member

    how can i evolve omanitete/kabuto from PK on doom/helix fosil because on the these cars is that it can be evelved only from master fosil
    it will be errat?
     
  14. arcane

    arcane New Member

    Martinek- you can't... it was my mistake for thinking that, but I switched everything even the strat above for including only the newer kabuto and omanyte

    Do you guys think I should add in 1 kabuto PK because with holon fossil I can get it on my bench and instead of striking for 20 turn 1 I use "fast evolution"?
     
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