Team Hatter presents: Toadstool (Now with Japanese/Hatter version)

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  1. Hatter™

    Hatter™ Active Member

    So heres a Politoad deck that was listed on the japanese website:


    Japanese List:
    Pokemon: 19
    1 Azelf LA
    1 Claydol GE
    1 Baltoy GE
    3 Poliwrath LA
    2 Politoad LA
    3 Poliwhirl LA
    4 Poliwag LA
    4 Phione MD

    Trainers: 25
    3 Night Maintenance
    4 Rare Candy
    2 Switch
    4 Professor Oak's Visit
    4 Roseanne's Research
    4 Bebe's Search
    4 Buck's Training

    Energy: 16
    4 Call Energy
    8 Fighting Energy
    4 Water Energy
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    MadHatter's List:
    Pokemon: 19
    1 Azelf LA
    1 Claydol GE
    2 Baltoy GE
    3 Poliwrath LA
    2 Politoad LA
    2 Poliwhirl LA
    4 Poliwag LA
    4 Phione MD

    Trainers: 26
    2 Night Maintenance
    4 Rare Candy
    2 Switch
    4 Professor Oak's Visit
    4 Roseanne's Research
    4 Bebe's Search
    4 Buck's Training
    1 Cynthia's Plan
    2 Dawn's Stadium

    Energy: 15
    4 Call Energy
    7 Fighting Energy
    4 Water Energy

    Strategy: beatdown lol.... your Phione start helps you set up your wags/ and you can use whats necessary if you want to do 60 more with toad's effect.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2008
  2. Dr. Mason

    Dr. Mason New Member

    Haha, niiiice build. Wouldn't wanna face that...

    if I wasn't playing lightning! :'D

    More Claydol ftw?
     
  3. Hatter™

    Hatter™ Active Member

    hmm.. heres the thing with Japan.. they can still set up without having to use claydol in their deck.. ive translated about 5 decks in the past 3 days... this is only one to use Claydol...
     
  4. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    -2 PoV
    +1 Baltoy
    +1 Claydol

    Perhaps?
     
  5. Dr. Mason

    Dr. Mason New Member

    :D Japan rules. No Claydol FTW. There don't appear to be olderf cards either :p Does this deck do well then?
     
  6. Hatter™

    Hatter™ Active Member

    Thats because Its DP-On lol....
    and it should.. Im gonna start testing this one tonight.. ill let ya know how it goes... its hard to find people to test with lol considering most I know are getting ready for worlds.
     
  7. Dr. Mason

    Dr. Mason New Member

    I'm up for testing via redshark/apprentice,anytime man.
     
  8. pinkertonfan

    pinkertonfan New Member

    This is gonna be my second deck i think.
     
  9. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    I don't see why it's so good. You need a Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Poliwrath, AND Politoed in play before the effect triggers. The extra damage is only present on Wag/Whirl/Wrath. Wrath's first attack becomes useless after the first time it's used. His second attack hits himself for 80 when Politoed is in play. So you pretty much obliterate their active, but DMG yourself heavily in the process asking to be KO'd next turn.

    Doesn't seem worth it imho.

    Good luck with the deck.
     
  10. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    LOL Politoed makes Poliwrath an epic fail-whale. But Poliwag and Poliwhirl are really good with Politoed up and running. 1 for 70, 2 for 80, or 3 for 100 and 50% paralyze seems pretty good. And Poliwrath is fine by itself.

    What puzzles me is the lack of Warp Point. It helps you go "Surprise! 120 for 1" when you're set up, and with Buck's that's a magic 130.

    Wouldn't Dusknoir also give it fits?
     
  11. Professor Elm

    Professor Elm Active Member

    I see your point, BUT I do love Wraths 1 for 120 and Whirls 3 for 100 and possible paralysis.
    Doesn't seem that great, but it may be good.
     
  12. DeathBerry

    DeathBerry New Member

    In Japan, consistency comes first! :thumb:


    This deck actually looks pretty amazing despite its skeptical reviews. Anyone remember when Blissey was shown, "Ew, this sucks!" Yeah, we'll see. That list looks pretty solid like most of the Japanese lists but meh.
     
  13. DL24

    DL24 New Member

    Dusknoir laughs @ this.
     
  14. Professor Elm

    Professor Elm Active Member

    lol
    Blissey never was viewed as a sucky card.
    In fact, it was one of the most hyped cards of Mysterious Treasures.
    The list is good, but I dunno.
     
  15. Vengence Dragon

    Vengence Dragon New Member

    - 1 POV
    + 1 Phione

    If you think about it, phione could be beast in this deck

    DId not see that Madhatter, too many polis next to phione got me confused. So ya the deck looks near perfect
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2008
  16. Hatter™

    Hatter™ Active Member

    It plays 4... lol
     
  17. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    Switch is good. That way, you can switch between two Poliwraths to deal 120 dmg each turn. But that's a pretty full bench, heh. Poliwag, Poliwhirl, 2 Poliwrath, a Politoed, and probably a Claydol (you'll need it).
     
  18. Hatter™

    Hatter™ Active Member

    ahh yeah since claydol is essential. = /
    and you cant have all that out lol cuz thats more than 4 wag in the deck...
    Active:
    Wrath or Toed
    Bench:
    wag
    whirl
    Wrath/Toed
    and dol but its not neccessary thats why theres only 1.
     
  19. tc19930815

    tc19930815 New Member

    Pachirisu>Call energy here, u cant risk a Poliwag begin Knocked out T1 or2........it only has 40 HP........anyway, 4 roseanne's is too much. ,maybe 3 is already ok.....
     
  20. GGRules!

    GGRules! New Member

    Japan = Consistancy
    4 Rose is needed.
     
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