Togekiss/Magmortar (Claydol and Delcatty Versions)

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  1. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    Delcatty Version

    Pokemon 25

    3 Magmar
    3 Magmortar SW
    1 Magmortar LvX
    3 Togepi
    2 Togetic
    3 Togekiss
    4 Pachirisu
    1 Phione
    2 Skitty
    2 Delcatty ex
    1 Delcatty

    Trainers 17

    4 Celio's Network
    3 Felicity's Drawing
    2 Roseanne's Research
    1 Steven's Advice
    1 Copycat
    2 Rare Candy
    2 Warp Point
    2 Night Maintenance
    1 Empty Space for Something that I might need but havnt thought of yet

    Energy 17

    14 Fire
    3 Scramble


    Setup Delcatty to draw. Togekiss to pile the energy up on Magmortar. 20x for each fire. Pachirisu as a starter and Phione to evolve quickly. When all the energy is discarded use Delcatty ex to do major damage.

    I was thinking of running Claydol.. but I don't know if I can fit him in.

    Claydol Version

    24 Pokemon
    4 Pachirisu
    3 Magmar
    3 Magmortar
    1 Magmortar LvX
    3 Togepi
    2 Togetic
    3 Togekiss
    2 Baltoy
    2 Claydol
    1 Mantine d

    17 energy
    14 Fire
    3 Scramble

    19 Trainers
    4 Celio's Network
    2 Roseanne's Research
    3 Steven's Advice
    2 Felicity's Drawing
    1 Wager
    2 Rare Candy
    2 Warp Point
    3 Night Maintenance

    Pachirisu CFF for Baltoy Togepi and Magmar, setup Claydol for accelaration. After Claydol draws to 6, Steven for an average of 3 more cards.
    Setup Magmortar to do big damage using all the energy's Togekiss gets.
    Mantine d in case I run out of energy and 3 night maintenance.
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2008
  2. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    This deck seems like it would be fun but it seems like it would be slow and also with 16 energy do you really expect to get a lot of energy.
  3. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    The idea is to upstream it back.
  4. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    Then why only 1 catty ex
  5. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    I tested this yesterday. And I got out a 110HP Magmortar doing 100 damage a turn for 3 turns. And once that went down, Magmortar 2 came in and also did 100 damage. Catty ex is for late game to do like 100+ damage. I find Togepi a terrible starter though.
  6. Bobby

    Bobby New Member

    I'd just drop windstorm all together, honestly. Pachirisu discards cessations and it should give you some room for more energy, more non-Togepi starters, or something.
  7. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    Going off of what Bobby said, you could always sub out the windstorms for warp point or maybe a stadium you're fond of.

    4 candy? You only have 1 stage 2 line, and it's 3/2/3 with a phione to help evolve. IMO you're going to have very little bench space to work with. May want to take that into consideration. You're talking about having 2 setup pokemon, and simultaneously running 3 independent lines without swoop/stump in the format.
  8. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    I have ever heard of any Delcatty Lv. X ;p
  9. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    Thanks PenguinMaster, Ryanvergel for the help.
    And thanks Ardoptes for pointing out my typo lolllll.

    I dropped the windstorms completely and it doesnt hurt at all.
    Running 4 Pachirisu improves the chances of me starting with it.
    My ideal start would be:
    Pachirisu CFF Togepi, Phione, Skitty
    Retreat start Evolving with Phione and setup 2 magmortars
    They KO Phione, Send out Magmortar with Scramble plus Togetics power
    When Magmortar 2-3 is gonna go down, setup 1 Delcatty ex to Upstream for major damage, then use late game Togetics on recycled Magmortars
  10. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    Uh well I made a list with Claydol.
    Any suggestions?
  11. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    - 1 Empty Space for Something that I might need but havnt thought of yet
    +1 Phione
  12. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    I did the same thing with my Hurricane list and it's great how much room it frees up, and with Pachirisu it dosn't hurt you. Man will I be sad if that card isn't in the set.

    Anyway, I think that typhlosion is far superior to togekiss in this deck, as it allows you to keep it going and not have to wory about getting a togikiss out there every 3 turns. Other than that it looks pretty good.

    Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

    Oh if you decide to use Typhlosion, maby use 1 Mew ex hp for G&G, or a 1-1 Alakazam line for Togikiss.
    hope this helps
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2008
  13. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    I've tried Magmortar/Typhlosion and its good but I wanted to try something new.
    Togekiss one sets up a Magmortar that can OHKO 2-3 things.
    Magmortar 2 will OHKO 1-2 things and delcatty will upstream ftw.

    And my Typhlosion doesnt use Mew EX lol. I use SW Mew since it can OHKO gallade too and it counters absol.
  14. holoncastform

    holoncastform New Member

    what about a claydol ex, it can do extra damage to gallade or gard...:biggrin:
  15. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    ^ Because that card sucks.
  16. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    ^ for once i agree with you darthpika...
  17. Scizor

    Scizor New Member

    Claydol is clearly better due to being able to put energy back in the deck for Togekiss. Delcatty ex is too slow and is a liability as soon as it hits the field unless it's going for the last prize.
  18. FriedBlaziken

    FriedBlaziken New Member

    Ok I've tested Claydol out but I'm having trouble getting all my energys from the discard back to the deck.
    Any ideas?
  19. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Energy Restore lol.. d:

    Just play Delcatty/ex...??
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