Tournament Program Error

Discussion in 'TCG News & Gossip Discussion' started by desert eagle, Sep 22, 2007.

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  1. desert eagle

    desert eagle New Member

    So there's 4 people at 2-1 and top 2 make cut.

    My opponents were 2-1, 2-1, 1-2 for a 55.56 tiebreaker
    One guy had his opponents at 2-1, 2-1, 0-3 for a (supposedly) 44.44 tiebreaker
    and another guy had 3-0, 1-2, 0-3 for a 44.44 as well.
    (Last guy had 2-1, 2-1, 1-2 as well)

    But somehow, the computer glitches up and puts both the 2 guys who OBVIOUSLY had worse tiebreakers than me ahead of me, stating their tiebreakers as 55.56 instead of 44.44

    The error seems to be the computer messing up and counting the 0-3 person as a 1-2 somehow even though the person's record is stated as 0-3. This makes no sense and I feel I was ABSOLUTELY ROBBED of my rightful chance to win that tourney.

    Has this ever happened to anyone before? And can I receive any compensation for this because I have the proof and I can just scan it if anyone wants to see it because this is absolutely ridiculous.
    If this is a problem with the new TOM system, then it needs to be fixed IMMEDIATELY as this is unacceptable.
  2. Pablo

    Pablo New Member

    Minimum tiebreakers if I remember correctly is minimum 33% for ALL players no matter their score, so maybe that explains a bit what happened?
  3. Flaming_Spinach

    Flaming_Spinach Feature Editor

    Pablos right.

    You weren't robbed.
  4. desert eagle

    desert eagle New Member

    Well if that's the case, its still ridiculously unfair that people can get a win off someone who is playing their first tourney ever (hence the 0-3) and manage to get in on tiebreaks because the system counts that person as a 1-2 instead of a 0-3, especially in a tournament with only 3 rounds.
  5. Pablo

    Pablo New Member

    The amount of whining because a person has a 33% tie breaker and caused a 4 way tie is nothing compared to the whining before of the effect of a player dropping and killing your percentage. It can't go both ways.

    So its either you miss a Top 32 cut at nats because 2 of your opponnents 0-3 dropped or you didnt win 8 boosters at a Battle Road? I'd personally rather avoid the first one.
  6. P_A

    P_A Active Member

    Well, I'd say maybe you should advertise more to get your attendance a bit higher than 8 people per age group. That way you'll have more rounds! I seriously can't figure why you'd be so upset over winning (or losing at) such a dinky little event. Ratings points for such a tournament must be piddly. Let's get a bit more upset over bigger problems than that shall we?
  7. DukeFireBird

    DukeFireBird Gallery Administrator<br>Forum Moderator

    ugh, our BR had a better complaint. 1 player who went 3-0 played "down" the 2nd and 3rd round.
    EVERYBODY was complaining about that. I told em, the pairing goes by rank and then by division. Its just unlucky that this individual had to play down 2 times.
  8. Rainbowgym

    Rainbowgym Active Member

    With what letter (A or B or C) does that persons last name start?
    It looked last season you will always be the one paired down if you are first in alfabetic order, which is not correct.

    Something should be in the software saying if XX is paired down already take the next player no matter of record.
  9. NoPoke

    NoPoke Active Member

    okay here are the changes from 1.25 to 1.26

  10. Rainbowgym

    Rainbowgym Active Member

    And compare to this
    Did you run the correct version of TOM?
    Because in my opinion the players with the worst record should be paired out.
    If TOM really pairs inside the agegroup first that is. just to avoid what we have seen to many times last season, people winning/loosing tournaments because they were paired out multiple times in 1 tournament.(with enough players in their own division)

    I am really starting to worry again, reading BR reports.
    How can someone in Masters going 1-1 being paired down in the 3rd round of a 5 round tournament?
    Unless the 5 rounds were based on SR attendance (which I don't believe) the downpairing should have been someone going 0-2.
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2007
  11. Papi/Manny

    Papi/Manny New Member

    I've been to 2 BRs so far, and in both of them, a senior player (who was born in 1992) was put into masters, even though he was correctly registered for the seniors. Is this a software glitch or what?
  12. NoPoke

    NoPoke Active Member

    1992 makes the player a master for the 2007-2008 season
  13. Papi/Manny

    Papi/Manny New Member

    Thanks for the answer nopoke.
  14. Lawman

    Lawman Active Member

    You stay in the same division for the entire season, ergo, you "age up" in September, not your actual b-day! 1992 = Master now.

  15. SteveP

    SteveP Active Member

    A 33% minimum is soooo much better than 0%. That's exactly how a very mature tiebreaker system (DCI) works. It's nice to see that POP sees the wisdom in that.

    This balances the randomness of playing a weak opponents. You're rewarded for playing stronger opponents, and you're not hurt for playing weak opponents (or players who drop out).

    If you didn't make the playoffs, the second tiebreaker (opp-opp win percentage) was what kept you out, or maybe head-to-head, or an early round loss.
  16. Bolt

    Bolt New Member

    I'm not sure exactly what was going on, but I know there was a similar issue at our BR. Two 4-1 players didn't make the cut even though one seemed to have higher resistance than somebody who did make it.
  17. PokeDAVE

    PokeDAVE New Member

    Tournament Operations Manager software does not works

    Do any one know why the software doesn't works on my laptop.
  18. Meesie6x6

    Meesie6x6 <a href="

    Las CC i was 1-0 and i was downpaired then when i was 2-0 i was downpaired again

    @Lia Jep sceond name has a B
  19. Chairman Kaga

    Chairman Kaga Active Member

    Please do not revive threads that are over two weeks old. This one is over two years old.

    If you have a problem with TOM, the appropriate place to ask for help is on the Organized Play forums, or [email protected].
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