Trainer Lock or Damage Spread?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by Blassari, Nov 14, 2007.

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  1. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    I have get 3x Ampharos SW, so I think that they will be good with these two:

    Draggy ex d DF [Trainer Lock]

    Flygon ex d DF [Damage Spread]

    Which one I should play? Draggy/Ampha or Flygon/Ampha?
    Draggy is IMO better, but usually Bench is 3/5 Basics, so Flygon whould be better... IDK, help me!!!

    SLOW DECK New Member

    Amphrasos seems like a card that they will soon have an erratta for. Saying that it must be active or something. Not that it is completely broken, but it can be if a Stage2 was easier to get up.
  3. reptilemaster

    reptilemaster New Member

    Flygon ex d
  4. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    Neither one. 2 stage 2s are difficult to set up, especially since the one you aren't attacking with needs to be on the bench ASAP.
  5. Rai

    Rai <a href="

    Damage Spread holds much more synergy with Ampharos's attack and loves Ampharos's body. Not to mention the Flygon d can attach to Ampharos's delta pre-evolutions AND gives you another type so you don't have to discard with Cluster Bolt.

    Trainer Lock might be fun, might frustrate your opponent's, and might be fun to try out. Add Battle Frontier to make it more fun. Now, your opponent can still use powers though, which means Gardevoir decks for instance will just laugh at you and bring up Garde LV.X then start sniping like mad. 2 KOs can be very, very bad for such decks, especially if you have to keep using Deafen to keep the lock up.
    Not to mention, not all opponents are so concerned about playing supporters. You're hoping Magmortar's Counter (Ludicolo SW) won't catch on, as you can't shut off it's body, and they all heal themselves even on the bench. Not to mention Battle Frontier locks will turn against you as they Confuse Dragonite EX d.
    Save these flaws, it seems worthwhile to try out. Ampharos still can attack due to grass energy and delta rainbows. Dragonite still likes most opponents tripping Ampharos's body (more KOs possible with Dragon Roar). Dragonite still has 150 HP and no weakness. Should we find some amazing way to counter Garde decks and the like, it'll be awesome, and you know your opponent can't Cessation Crystal in such cases.
    Just, Damage Spread has an easier time building the list up. That's the thing. If you're ready for a challenge, go for it; build the Dragonite EX and Ampharos deck. They're all more plausible then one might think if built right.

    EDIT: Ampharos doesn't need an Errata. No translation errors, and the body isn't as broken as say, a Shiftry EX like power. You can't stack Jamming. You can use powers (Nidoqueen, Gardevoir, Delcatty, etc.) to get around Jamming, and not have a care in the world. That's why it's not broken.
  6. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    Damage Spread over alot of things. You should use two stage 2s tho, use ampharos and some techs or something(Ray/Pluse SW/Absol ex.etc) for example,they seem like they would flow better.

    or you could wait for a second coming..............
  7. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    IMO Trainer Lock is more interesting, and it's lil' harder to use, but it does what it can: Annoys opponent's... Just keep doing Deafen until you have loaded the Dragon Roar, and hope that you KO the Defending with 1-4 DMG Counters, and spread the rest to bench, that allready has DMG Counters cause of Jamming! Nasty... Very nasty...
  8. Dark Ninja

    Dark Ninja New Member

    I've tried it w/ Flygon. And even with the new Phione (think Jirachi wish maker -damage counters) it's still very slow in the current format. As of now, it's not a viable deck.

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