Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by Phazon Elite, Aug 20, 2007.

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  1. Phazon Elite

    Phazon Elite New Member


    Please, please tell me I'm misreading this.

    Does Bad Temper make the your opponent's Pokemon do 60 more damage to the your Pokemon?

    I really, really hope I'm just tired and unable to comprehend PUI's occasionally incompetent American. Seriously, how could any Pokemon have such a HORRIBLE attack?
  2. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member

    i just lol'd. what a TERRIBLE card. 4 for a possible 100 maybe? and 2 for 30 and the defending does SIXTY more damage to you..... GREAT CARD.
  3. Dom

    Dom New Member

    Its almost as bad as Machamp.
  4. PSYCO829

    PSYCO829 New Member

    he does 60 to himself if he flips tais
    is the opponent going to take the chance of doing 90 to themselves?
    try him with scarmory ex to really annoy people
  5. kaworu

    kaworu New Member

    Double edged sword

    4-4 Ursaring
    2 Skarmory ex

    Rainbow energies to put damage on benched tediursa's for 100 damage.

    Awful deck idea.
  6. PSYCO829

    PSYCO829 New Member

    but very annoying
  7. Chairman Kaga

    Chairman Kaga Active Member

    The extra damage is an effect placed on the defending Pokemon. Evolving (to clear the confusion) will cause you to lose the extra damage, as will retreating and attacking with something else.

    The card still sucks, it just sucks slightly less than you think. It's an annoyance card due to the confusion effect, and that's about all it has going for it.
  8. Docfrost

    Docfrost New Member

    They might since that would never happen. A tails flip on confusion adds 3 damage counters to the pokemon and does not deal 30 damage to him. The +60 damage would not get added in that case. Also confusion flip occurs after the attack was announced but before the attack happens (step f if I remember correctly). If the flip is tails the attack is halted so no +60 damage.
  9. kaworu

    kaworu New Member

    If that's right then it's the worst attack ever, well other than that treeko that did 1 energy for flip a coin, if heads do 10 damage.

    This is a terrible card.
  10. Dom

    Dom New Member

    lol ya, no it doesnt make them take 90, ya if there attack took self damage theyd get +60 on top of that but not from the confusion
  11. PSYCO829

    PSYCO829 New Member

    in that case, this is the worst card i have ever laid eyes on
  12. Dom

    Dom New Member

    well idk its not TERRIBLE compared to most cards

    if you can keep hurting your baby bear then you got a 100 damage attack on a 100hp stage 1, boostable, its decent for an unplayable card

    id say about 90% of cards are unplayable anyway and this is one of the better ones of those
  13. PSYCO829

    PSYCO829 New Member

    a better unplayable card is still unplayable
  14. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    Well... It at least has some great artwork. It would only be useful in a metagame full of self inflicting attacks
  15. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    I think that they do take the 60+ damage, because the attacks says: During your opponent's next turn that pokemon's attacks do 60 more damage to the active pokemon.
    And since he is an active pokemon he takes damage too. It functions just like swagger in the pokemon video games.
  16. Docfrost

    Docfrost New Member

    This is taken directly from the go-pokemon.com website dealing with confusion

    When you attack with a Confused Pokémon, you flip a coin. On heads, the attack works normally, but on tails your Pokémon receives 3 damage counters and ends the attack. (Only apply Weakness and Resistance for actual damage, not damage counters.) The Active Pokémon receives 3 damage counters even if its attack normally does not do damage (like Treecko’s Poison Breath attack).

    Because a failed flip adds 3 damage counters (not 30 damage) to the attacking pokemon the +60 would not happen. Previous rulings dealing with Strength Charm and Life Drain (which adds damage counters not damage) verify this.
  17. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    I don't think that PUI. nintendo or whoever do cards would make such a horrible card...

    could someone answer this question..PokePop you here?
  18. Phazon Elite

    Phazon Elite New Member

    I questioned this matter in the AtM forum. No reply yet.
  19. lolganium

    lolganium New Member

    actually, it's 'plus 60', on a tails it does 90 to itself, if i've read this right

    ignor this...
  20. stalkerex

    stalkerex New Member

    If you flip tails, you dont do damge to yourself. You simply place 3 damage counters on yourself. This attack is to tempt them to attack while confused. If they get tails, they place 3 damage counters on there pokemon. But if they get heads, your defending pokemon is gonna get hit with an extra 60 damage thanks to yourself.

    Just remember. Its to make temptation. "Maybe i should attack i may do 60 more damge to them" They get tails "Crap, should have retreated."

    Hope this helps any confusion.

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