Weird Ruby and Sapphire collation...

[Sensei]

Hmmm...maybe it was actually intended to distribute an extra amount of the EX to help spark renewed interest as well as bring new people in...

`Sensei

 

[irwinmalek]

Well, I think that whatever the rarity is, it should STICK THE SAME for the whole print run! PLEASE, don't do half and half in the next set, Lol...

 

[SteveP]

I agree with irwin on this. Stick with one rarity scheme for ANY print run in the set. But, the REAL issue with this change is how MESSED UP the rarity within the set has now become (see my earlier comment about the comparison between NH-rares and Uncommons).

BTW, does anyone know the rarity scheme in the Japanese R&S sets?

 

[RainbowRichards]

BTW, does anyone know the rarity scheme in the Japanese R&S sets?

Meaning how the cards are packed in the Japanese ADV boosters? I'm not sure I know exactly what "rarity scheme" refers to .

As you know, Japanese ADV1 + mini-decks = English R&S:EX...

I've opened one box each of ADV2 and ADV3, so might be able to answer (once I know the question )!

There are 20 boosters/box - 11 cards per pack
Holos are 1 per pack
Rares are 1 per pack
EX (white stars) are ~ 4/box (replaces a holo)
Energy comes 1 per pack (basic/dark/metal)
Pretty sure the rest were 5 com & 3 unc

 

[SteveP]

RainbowRichards, thanks for the info. ADV sounds like Neo Genesis with semi-ultra-rares (EX Pokemon).

By rarity scheme, I mean, what are the odds of getting a particular card? In the latest EX print run, the odds are:

1:3 for EX/Holos - with 22 EX/Holos, that's 1:66 (1 out of 66 boosters) for any particular EX/Holo

1:1 for non-holo rares - with 13 NH rares, that's 1:13 (1 out of 13 boosters) for any particular NH rare

2:1 for uncommons - with 34 uncommons, that's 1:17 (1 out of 17 boosters) for any particular uncommom

14:3 for commons - with 40 commons (assuming basic energies are commons), that's between 1:8 and 1:9 (1 out of 8-9 boosters) for any particular common

This rarity scheme is:

- non consistant with the rarity symbols
- makes this small set too hard to complete

 

[Rainbowgym]

Lucky me, i opened about 50 boxes of the first print and got out of each box 11-12 holofoils and 13-14 EX pokemon. So if i understand it right in the latest prints you get a mix of total 12 HOLO/EX?
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one day later
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Today i got new cases of boosterboxes in and wanted to check if the mix was really changed.
And yes after opening 4 boosterboxes out of 4 different sealed cases this is what i got.
3 boxes with 6 EX cards and 5 HOLOcards
1 box with 5 EX cards and 6 HOLOcards.
so that's not a premiumcard 1:27 but 1:29
Is this Nintendo's way to get back on a mixmistake by leaving 1 premium out of each box.
The coming weeks i have to open more boxes and if this same combination occures i will post it.
There is also a strange way the boosters with the premiums are mixed into the box, but i have to open more boxes to see if my argument stands.

 

[Pablo]

This switch of rarity seriously stinks, my frined and I opened a box at the same time, and he had 24 total holos/ex and I only had 12 total holos/ex. I hate PUSA for changing this rarity thingy, and if this rarity stays the same, I prolly won't buy a box of EX2: Sandstorm.

 

[NoPoke]

Ok, I now have sort of "proof"... Lol..

Here's something which may help to figure out what was wrong with the packs.

I got 23 rares in 20 packs (including EX Pokemon)
I got 4 foils in 20 packs

Basically, I think what happened was that instead of 3 of the regular foils, I got a normal rare, for some reason. WHat do you think?

Your packs are 'correct'
premium card odds are 1:27.
premium cards are the foils and Ex pokémon.

So you have 20 rares in 20 packs.
and 7 premium in 20 packs.

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However in the packs that I have the card order is different...
C
C
C
C
C or HoloFoil
U
U
ReverseFoil
Rare or Ex

In these packs the Ex pokémon aren't premium cards!

On the packs that I have the text 'TCG C P001' is printed above the ISBN number and barcode. Does this 'TCG C P001' refer to the print run?????

ISBN:1-93026-75-5, Barcode 45496 84001

 

[ukpokemonpro]

I note that the difference between the packs I bought in from the US/Canada are different to those from a UK distributor ... the UK packs have INT EN 10000 over the bar code and in the red part of the pack back halfway through the smallish print in bold it states

"For sale outside North America and Japan"

Obviously these international packs have the correct card distribution ... I just opened one now and the distribution was

C
C
C
C
C
U
U
Reverse Holo
R

Personally I will not distinguish between pack prices but it could be that some of the earlier packs could sell at a higher margin?

Personally I am glad they sorted the mistake out ..better now than with the next release..

So now all we need them to sort out is OP outside the USA, distribution and release dates, support and attitude

Nah that will never happen surely?

 

[GoldenZnok170]

ukpokemonpro is right about the european/american boosters. I live in Belgium and I just bought my first packs of Ex:R&S this weekend. In my first pack I got hitmonchan ex, which was the only rare card in the pack. This was the last card in the pack. Because of the previous post I checked my booster packs and this was an American pack. It had the text 'For sale only in North America'. Now my friend Fleur also got an ex pokemon in one of her first booster packs and that pack was sorted like this: 4 common, 1 ex (which replaces the normal 1 common or holo), 2 uncommon, 1 foil (in this case it was a rare card), 1 rare. And I asked her about the package and it appeared to be a "For sale outside North America and Japan" pack, like ukpokemonpro said. So if you buy an American booster, the ex card replaces the normal rare card and is the last card in a pack. If you get a non-american booster the ex will replace one common card, like any regular holo does and you still get another rare.

Another thing irwinmalek mentions is bends on the cards. Well, I've experienced it too. Even though I put the cards back into the booster after I opened it and kept them there until I got home and put them in a sleeve and binder, the hitmonchan ex still had this little bend on the holo border. I can't explain why but the nintendo cards seem to be a lot easier to damage. At least that's the impression I have. I'm pretty sure they use the same type of paper as WotC to print their cards on. So this is a big question mark to me.

 

[RainbowRichards]

So if you buy an American booster, the ex card replaces the normal rare card and is the last card in a pack. If you get a non-american booster the ex will replace one common card, like any regular holo does and you still get another rare.

Sort of, but not quite

If you buy an American booster from the first print run, it is so as you state. However, if you buy an American booster from the secnd print run, it is the same as the "International" booster (with the EX cards being positioned in the holo slot).

TCG C P001

I happened to obtain packs of both print runs (from two different sources) this weekend, and this same marking was found upon both packs. I thought I noticed a bit of a color difference in the reds of the pack with Manectric on the front...