When is Togekiss usefull?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by afstandopleren, Mar 22, 2008.

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  1. afstandopleren

    afstandopleren New Member

    I have to say, I notice that for a pokemon that can energize pokemon at an incredible speed, it is'nt much seen...(yet?)

    And I have to admit, even I only have 1 use for it and that is to power up pokemon fast when Darkrai lv.X is in play. Plus, the only other decks I have seen it play with are Blissey and.....Wailord:tongue:

    Can anyone tell me why this card does not seems to get alot of attention?
    Or is it not all that what it is said to be?
  2. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    It suffers from the typical "can't do much until it hits stage 2 and then it needs something else with it" problem which means things like Mag, G+G will outspeed and be more consistent.

    And it dependant on its poké-power. Anything like Pidgeot HP or even a battle frontier to counter Pidgeot will shut it off.
  3. afstandopleren

    afstandopleren New Member

    But if you have Windstorms in your deck and some Super Scoop Ups, would that not be help Togekiss?
    Or even Palkia and Pachi, would they be helping then?

    But your right, it's too obvious if not way too slow.
  4. WinkWinkNudgeNudge

    WinkWinkNudgeNudge New Member

    This card has made to team up with Ho oh. Ho oh is basic so only togekiss has to evolve. Ho oh needs 4 NRG to attack. This can happen T1 with rare candy and Togekiss. Take a look at deck strat for skittles. The card hold some promise for any poke that does X times number of energy.
  5. SuicidalPikachu

    SuicidalPikachu New Member

    IMO, Togekiss is only useful early in the game when you have enough energy in your deck for it to get something, afterwards it is a deadweight Stage2 which is doing 40 for 3 energy half the time.
  6. charchar

    charchar New Member

    Highest damage it can do is 120. Can't kill gallade, gardavoirLvl.X, or magmortarLvl.X.

    Oh. Wait, I forgot about basic dark and basic metal! Never mind it can knock those things out.
  7. Pokeric

    Pokeric New Member

    SKITTLES!!! Ho-Oh is versatile in the means that you can power it up just enough to OHKO your opponents deck and start powering up the next one. Plus, you have Pheonix Turn!!!
  8. SuicidalPikachu

    SuicidalPikachu New Member

    i wasnt talking about ho-oh, i was talking about Togekiss, it maxes at 70 but does 40 half the time, it's useless after it hits the field and relies on other pokemon to back it up. and chances are you wont get everything you need from it's power.
  9. afstandopleren

    afstandopleren New Member

    That must be because almost EVERYONE uses special energy. (DRE anyone?)
    But the way that I see it is that Togkiss makes DRE useless if you just put in 15+Basic energy.
    I have put 20 :dark: in my Darkrai deck and it always fetches a minimum of 3 energy, which is always what I need.
  10. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Yet if you do that, you leave little room for trainers.

    Its the problem I'm experiencing with Togekiss. Putting it in my decks give little room for other stuff.
  11. afstandopleren

    afstandopleren New Member

    I don't experience any problems.
    Maybe I am lucky or my opponent was not paying attention, but this deck actually won from a GG deck once.

    Also the problem of having a shortage of trainers does not seem to apply to me.
    Here is the deck I am talking about.

    3-2-2 Togekiss
    2 Darkrai Sleep Hole
    2 Darkrai lv. X
    3-2 Weavile (1 DP and 1 SW)
    3 Unown G <---------

    Total: 19 Pokemon

    4 Rare Candy
    2 Premier Ball
    4 Super Scoop Up
    2 Dusk Ball
    2 Prof. Oaks Visit
    2 Moonlight Stadium
    1 Sidney's Stadium
    1 Felicity's Drawing
    2 Night Maintenance
    1 Scott

    Total: 21

    20 Basic :dark:
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2008
  12. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    It's useful when the opponent isn't using Psychic Lock.
  13. afstandopleren

    afstandopleren New Member

    So okay, it has 2 pokemon with Poke-Powers. But Psy Lock Does not cancel Poke-Body's.
    Maybe that is the reason why I won from G&G..?
  14. BJJ763

    BJJ763 Trading Mod Supervisor Staff Member Trader Feedback Mod

    Togekiss is a -POWER.

    SW Weavile is a -POWER.

    Unown E is a -POWER.
  15. tglilly

    tglilly New Member

    I think after the sets rotate Togekiss will be a little more popular, because right now we have special enrgys to power up our pokmeon quickly. Unless another energy is releaced or any of the sspecial energys are reprinted.
  16. afstandopleren

    afstandopleren New Member

    Darkrai is a -BODY
    Thank god that Psy Lock does not cancel -BODY's. Go :dark: Pokemon!
  17. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    I'm not sure you quite understand how G+G works.
  18. chetabear

    chetabear New Member

    togekiss should be used more than it is, i mean its energy exeleration and a deck thinner. when you need to get rid of it just scoop it up or make it active i mean so what if it only does 70 to 100 in your deck just cause its not a one shot doent mean ints not still 70 pionts plus for a gallade with dre atatched to one shot it to prevent being koed next turn it would have to flip OMG 5 prizes!

    in short this card is underestimated.
  19. V_For_Vendetta

    V_For_Vendetta New Member

    Read Darkrai's weakness, read Gallade's type. Gallade can rip through every pokemon in your deck, with the exception of Togekiss, who is a 2-3 shot from Gardevior, if they do not simply Sonic Blade then Psychic Lock you away.
  20. BJJ763

    BJJ763 Trading Mod Supervisor Staff Member Trader Feedback Mod

    Which is why i didn't list it. But Psychic Lock cripples 3/4 of your deck.

    As noted Gallade takes care of your other 1/4.

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