Author Topic: the matrix tsunami the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 10, 2003 01:49 PM             well after not noticing that i had the gatr in my stuff to make the deck i put one together. i made it in 5 minuted and took 4th at a tourney that day. i lost once to this crazy kids octillery/steelix. so after looking thuroughly on what to do on how to beat it i saw gymbo's rage totodile and memory berry theory(thus murdering steelix) so i changed it to this. the matrix tsunami v 1.0 pokemon:20 4 totodile(NG) 2 fury swipes(50hp and 2 rage(40) 4 croconaw (2 sweep away and 2 EX) 3 feraligatr (EX) 2 cleffa 2 magby 2 tyrouge 1 skarmory(NG) 1 suicune (non holo)no gust trainers:24 4 elm 4 trader 4 gold berry 3 copycat 3 double gust 2 focus band 2 memory berry 1 town volunteers 1 fan club energy: 4 metal 2 recycle 10 water it might need a little help so please do so. From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 10, 2003 05:53 PM             can someone please lock the other copies of this because something happened and the bards said there was an error so i clicked retry on accident twice. thank you From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Gymbo Member # 30832 posted March 11, 2003 06:36 AM             Hmm...this deck is pretty similar to the list that I play right now. The most glaring problem are the two Sweep Away Crocs. Testing has proven that they do not fit the deck's theme. The idea with Gatr is simple. Get the Exp Croc rolling through with a Metal. Take Down if you have to then evolve and Rending for the KO. Sweep Away Gatr does deal 50, leaving damage still on the Poke even if it was Gold Berried, but the deck just flows a LOT better with all 4 Exp Crocs. The dual Totos is a good move since you can Fan Club the one you need. Rage Toto for Metal Pokes or Swipes Toto for Entei/Cargo or other Fire. Like I said I really don't have many fixes, but here's the current version that I won my tourney with last Sat. Ferrelligatr Modified Format² Pokemon: 19 4 Totodile (2 Swipes/2 Rage) 4 Croconaw (Expedition) 3 Feraligatr (Expedition; Reverse Holo) 2 Cleffa 2 Magby 2 Tyrogue 1 Skarmory (Genesis) 1 Elekid Energy: 16 10 Water 4 Metal 2 Recycle Trainers: 25 4 Professor Elm 4 Pokemon Trader 4 Double Gust 4 Gold Berry 3 Copycat 2 Pokemon Fan Club 2 Memory Berry 1 Professor Oak's Research 1 Town Volunteers As you can see, the differences are trivial and mainly personal preference basically. If you have any questions you can IM me at either XGymbo01X or Elite Mech Gymbo. Good luck! ~Jim Ferrell -------------------- =Pokemon Professor Jim Ferrell= *AKA The Publically Acclaimed and Talented Deck Mechanic Gymbo* *Accomplished Rogue Player* *Second Place Finisher at the Ohio SBZ '03* *Creator of Espeon Decks* *Innovator of Expedition Feraligatr* *Current Project: Skyridge Analysis* DCI: 2032 AIM: XGymbo01X "Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake." From: Akron, OH, USA | Registered: Jul 2001  |  IP: Logged Meganium45 Member # 99835 posted March 11, 2003 08:03 AM             I love this deck! I rolled through it at the SBZ with a Jumpluff/Kingdra combination. The only combo I can see being effective with this deck is Steelix. Your Skarmory will not protect you, and, well, one magby will not either. Meganium45 -------------------- "To Make a Difference, you have to be Different" Winner and parent of 6 year old winner (Little Duck) of Colinsville SBZ! Other son was the 9 year old winner May SBZ at Dragon King, the best place to play Pokemon in the Midwest! NOW 3 TROPHIES!!! THE MASTER PROFESSOR IN ST. LOUIS and TO too! Yipee! Gotta love St. Louis 8th, 9th and 10th and the Origins Professor Championship! (I was 9th :( ) Too bad we never have room for our bench - - lol. From: St. Louis, Missouri | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 11, 2003 02:20 PM             thanx gymbo for the deck idea. i kind of like the suicune but i will definetly try the elekid idea i dont know if one research is that neccesary is it?? From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged SigmaTheFierceDeity Member Member # 132218 posted March 13, 2003 12:51 PM             An excellent card to combo with Ex Feraligatr any day is Neo Discovery Forretress. You use Gatr's power to make your opponent have to pull out something he probably won't want to, then next turn when he (probably) retreats, he'll have 10+ damage on him (more if you stockpile Forretresses on your bench). Then, of course, Gatr's Rendering Jaws attack will do the 60-70 damage (Yes, I've seen Gatr quite a few times. The strategy now is to play a Metal on him so that a first Rendering Jaws will do 30 instead of 40, thus rendering Gold Berry useless. Watch out for Focus Band, though.) -------------------- Why do I like this job? Because the pay's good, the scenary changes, and they let me use explosives ^_^. From: Claxton, Ga | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 13, 2003 01:06 PM             well STFD, the deck is made to be fast so by adding those then that would hurt the deck by making it slow. also thats why magby is in there beacuse 10 and no power,thus meaning gold berry wont come off anyway so i think its fine the way it is.. good idea though. From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged SigmaTheFierceDeity Member Member # 132218 posted March 13, 2003 01:12 PM             Matrix, you are forgetting the fact that benching that Magby ends its attack's effect, and Double Gust is quite common. In a deck where you have a lot of high-retreating pokemon, they'll be targeted by Double Gust. -------------------- Why do I like this job? Because the pay's good, the scenary changes, and they let me use explosives ^_^. From: Claxton, Ga | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 14, 2003 04:58 PM             it won't matter because all you need is 10 damage on one guy also this way i can ABUSE the gatr's power then double gust if i need to.(due to the fact that most of the pokemon and free retreaters) and double gust is not a problem with suicune From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 15, 2003 06:29 PM             well if you all remember at the begining ofthe first post for this i mentioned the octillery/steelix and this crazy kid. well even after using thoery i still could not beat him. you see he uses the dirty little trick where he gets all his pokes killed but steelix the just mizes. he's won the tourney for the place i play at for three weeks is a row. now i am going to play,and play this deck till i beat him so does anyone know how to get around this.(NOTE:the rage and memory berry i used but he got heads on band both times) From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged the Matrix999 Member Member # 130666 posted March 21, 2003 03:19 PM             ok, well i've given a weeks thought on my problem,looking and looking through my cards when what i was looking for was right under my nose... Promo smeargle! so here is the fix Pokemon: 19 4 Totodile (2 Swipes/2 Rage) 4 Croconaw (Expedition) 3 Feraligatr (Expedition) 2 Cleffa 2 Magby 1 Tyrogue 1 Skarmory (Genesis) 1 suicune (non-holo) 1 smeargle (promo)paint the steelix,rendering it useless. Energy: 16 10 Water 4 Metal 2 Recycle Trainers: 25 4 Professor Elm 4 Pokemon Trader 4 Double Gust 4 Gold Berry 3 Copycat 2 Pokemon Fan Club 2 Memory Berry 1 Professor Oak's Research 1 Town Volunteers well no i can get by the kids cheap strategy...hopefully From: ferndale!!! | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged

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