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Topic: The next Archetype ...
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Track_Runner
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posted April 11, 2002 10:50 AM
This is an unusual deck that I've never seen anyone play . And I decided to see if it would work cause I came up with this weird deck Idea last night and was wondering if it would work ... I play tested it , and it seemed to work ... so tell me what you think .
4 Slowking
4 Slowpoke (Fossil)
3 Donphan
3 Phanpy (NDe)
4 Cleffa
2 Tyrogue
2 Pichu
4 Professor Elm
3 Computer Search
3 Item finder
3 Super Energy Removal
3 Focus Band
3 Resistance Gym
3 Gold Berry (Slowking vr. Pichu)
1 Switch
1 Nightly Garbage Run
10 Fighting Energy
2 Recycle Energy
I was trying to think of a way I could use rapid spin ... and at the same time my opponet not being able to GOW him back out or Super/Removal him ... So I was thinking possibly Chaos Gym , but it could hurt me too ... then I though Slowking !!! I play tested it ... and it worked ... and I was thinking to my self "I've never seen anyone play a Slowking/Donphan deck" but IMO I think it works ... so what do ya think ???
[ April 14, 2002, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Track_Runner ]
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Dark Psyduck
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posted April 11, 2002 12:28 PM
Not an archetype (NO CHANCE)
Too many Cleffa
Too many Donphan
Most people would tell you to play Genesis Slowpoke, but I REALLY like the Fossil one, Scavenge is GREAT!
Not enough Item Finder
Change the Tyrogue to Pichu to kill their Igglybuffs
Make the Gold Berries into Pokemon Center so that your own Pichu or their Pichu don't hurt you.
Not enough energy to play SER, especially if you're not playing Recycle energy. I'd suggest dropping SER from this.
I'd suggest a few Scythers, you really do NOT want to send up Donphan against Babies. Scyther can take care of them.
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Track_Runner
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posted April 11, 2002 01:20 PM
There is no way I'm playing pichu !!! It would hurt me !!! too many Donphan !!! Naw ... any Donphan deck needs 4 (any) this deck needs 4 cleffa !!! do you know how to play a donphan deck ??? it needs a bunch of babys . THe SER is awsome in the deck . THe Stradegy is to rapid spin then send out babys ... I don't think scyther would be good in any Donphan deck ... and plus this deck wouldn't have enough room for DCE . And 10 to 12 fighting energy is usually what's played in a Donphan deck . I might take out 2 fighting for 2 Recycle though ... that might help . the reason I don't play genesis Slowpoke is because I don't have any energy for it !!! (duh) . yeah I send up Donphan against babies (then GOW out the pokemon their protecting) . I think there's a big chance of this being an Archetype . (FOR SURE)
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Dark Psyduck
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posted April 11, 2002 02:28 PM
d00d...Slowking players play Pichu, if they're experienced in Slowking. Zzap the Igglies. Would you rather have 2 Slowking or so on your bench being Gazed and useless, or would you rather have 2 Slowkings on your bench with 40 damage that can be Pokemon Centered away, and at least 2 prizes up, assuming your opponent doesn't play other Powers? I thought so...
4 Cleffa in a deck is rare. Most people play 3 in unlimited, and in MF people play 2 or 3.
SER is great in ALL decks...but your energy is too low to play them well. If you add Recycle, keep 'em.
Well like I said...Babies will just sit up there...and you do nothing. And I'd L-O-V-E to see you try to Gust of Wind the opponent out with 0 Gust of Winds in your deck. =/ However, I must assume you play 2 of them because your deck's 2 cards short.
And nah, all Unlimited archetypes with the current sets have been discovered.
~DP
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posted April 11, 2002 03:44 PM
Just one more thing. If you are going to use Tyrogue, evolve it! Baby Pokémon, are Okay, but what about a Hitmon? Just advising, because I like baby evolution. Igglybuffs! Get rid of them, and put something decent in like one of the Slows!
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Tyranitar666
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posted April 11, 2002 05:02 PM
nah...no archtype. i have posted posts assuming something will be an archtype before, and usually they r pretty close ( at least with Blinding Memory and Snausages ) but please put more testing that ONE night into it.
Next, yes, pichu works in slowking just fine. 4 cleffa is good in slowking though DPsyduck... donphan is overkill though...
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Track_Runner
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posted April 11, 2002 06:03 PM
uh...whatever , 4 Donphan is not OVERKILL !!! expecially since it's my only attacking pokemon in the deck ... Seriously pichu would (SUCK!!!) in this deck ... it would freaking hurt me !!!
but evertime I play the deck I get 2/3 on the bench ... and most good players play pichu over iggly unless thay have powers (like Slowking Dark crobat , Elekid , and so on ...)
[ April 12, 2002, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Track_Runner ]
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Dark Psyduck
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posted April 11, 2002 06:05 PM
Do you not notice the Poemon Centers I told you to add?
If they play Pichu, don't play your Pichu. Use them as CPU and Item Finder bait.
PLAY PICHU
trust us
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posted April 11, 2002 06:52 PM
*sigh*
Welcome back IPG21... how things change & yet stay the same.
I understand DPsyduck's opinion BECAUSE my slowking deck and virtually anyone THAT KNOWS us around my parts has a pichu in slowking decks.
AM I scared of a MUK deck? no. I knock out the grimer before it can evolve OR knock out the muk (c'mon who ever has grass energy for that MUK anyway? I just keep GOWing it)
BUT igglies are SO ANNYONING!!! Nothing worse than 2 slowkings out and 2 igglies out on the opponent's bench with NOTHING you can do about it... that is...
-1 Donphan
-1 Phanphy
(3-3 line is usually enough)
+1 pichu
+1 Pokecenter
YEP I am CRAZY not dumb... Imagine my other TecH in my slowking deck, CAUSE you'd never guess!!!
Believe me, IT IS fun zapping pokemon AND THEN the next turn evolving 2 slowkings, opponents just LOVE that.
PS WATCH the name calling... just some very passionate advide from some VERY experienced players on this board. AND if you are lucky enough TO NOT play opponents with igglies, lucky you & ignore our advice.
PSS I play rocket slowpoke. SCAVENGE? Watch out for those MUK/Fable decks that are going to want to SCAVENGE those trainers too.
PSSS YEAH squeeze in recycle, 2 would be enough.
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Dark Psyduck
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posted April 11, 2002 07:54 PM
JUAN!!!
I thought you'd died or something!
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posted April 12, 2002 08:22 AM
hehe..i once made a deck almost like this..let me post it
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charzilla
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posted April 13, 2002 07:43 AM
IPGeek21,Greetings
I thought you got put to sleep but had to
flip TWICE to wake up!
Track Runner,
Trust the people who are trying to help you.
At least try some of the things we are suggesting.
What do you have to lose?
Play Pichu w/Slowkings.Maybe you have never
tried King decks before.I do not know.
What I do know is that my son has been using
one a bit lately and there is absolutely nothing
more frustrating than having 2 Kings out only to
find out they may as well be Christmas tree
ornaments while they get gazed at every turn by 2
Igglybuffs.
You are being given some good advice here.Do
you not come here asking for help?Do not dismiss
help people are giving you so quickly.They do this
voluntarily.They may not be inclined to do so in
the future if you can't at least give them and
their ideas a bit of respect.
At a recent league tourney there were so many
igglies running around my son played 2 Pichus.
He enjoyed collecting his prizes in groups of
2.
Also the Pokemon centers and recycle nrgs
that were suggested are good choices here.Just at
least try some of these ideas.You may find you do
like them after all.
One of the people who responded here is the
the person who got my son on to a certain King
deck that he has had a bit of fun with.Many player
have been burned up after playing him and not
being able beat a deck with a certain Pokemon no
one seems to care about.They are starting to now
though.
To that originator:My son did play in our
league season ending tourney after playing very
little during the season.He spent the season with
many of the other young and new players teaching
them the game.He had a lot of fun for a change.He
took 2nd with a deck only a very few different
cards from a posted version of the deck.His 2nd
place put him back as #1 DCI ranking player in Pa.
He may have done much better if his only
basic to open the game wasn't(I hate to say this
after what we have just said here)Pichu.The reason
that I say this is because the player he beat was
using a deck with 4 Ditto based around 4 Chaos.If
Pichu would not have made his presence known so
early I believe a few Dittos would have.He used 2
Pichu.It could have been a Zapfest!!It was a great
game though even though he lost.He lost to the 3rd
ranked player in Pa.Plus he tends to get a bit
worried when he plays adults(he's 11 and his
opponent is ???35????).And last but not least my
2 plus 50 win top seeds were nowhere to be found
at the end.One was suspended for the next season.
Sorry I definitely got off topic.
TrackRunner,just try some of the ideas here.
No one can make you play any deck other than the
one YOU want,BUT we are trying to help you,not to
hurt your playing or deck building skills.
Charzilla ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Track_Runner
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posted April 13, 2002 01:26 PM
alright , I tried it and 2 pichu worked ... When I made the deck I wasn't really thinking about igglys . I'd rather play Gold Berry + Pichu insted of pokemon center though . so here's what I changed ...
- 1 Phanpy
- 1 Donphan
+ 2 pichu
- 2 fighting Energy
+ 2 Recycle Energy
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posted April 13, 2002 05:44 PM
OK,
Now you will find out how nice it is to pull
a recycle from Pichu or Tyrouge and then SER them
slap that same nrg back down if it was placed
already.
If you REALLY want those G.Berries use them
but remember that poke center is to heal those
Kings after a couple of zaps.It takes only 1
poke center to take care of this instead of 2 G.B.
Plus there will be no nrg on the Kings to lose
and recycles come back to hand.With your finders
you should even be able to use it twice if you
need to.This would free up some more space.What
about another switch?You don't want aKing out in
front that got gusted and now you can't get him
back.You could also probably get another space by
trying 3 Cleffa instead of 4.
I am curious about your 3 Resistance Gyms.Why?
Is there flocks of green things with wings and
other fliers in your area.Just curious.We go into
this alot in this area lately.Fighting is a tough
choice locally.Oh well,hope something helped.You
can let us know.We will help you if we can.
Good luck with it,Charzilla ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Track_Runner
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posted April 14, 2002 11:51 AM
this deck needs 4 cleffa . and 3 resistance gyms are needed !!! I'm not taking them out for sure ... it's for pokemon with resistance to fighting ... (duh) if i did anything to the resistance gyms it would be to add 1 more ... you have to play resistance gym in a donphan deck ... I might take out 1 tyrogue for a switch . do you think that would help ?
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