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Topic: Annoying Payback. Ouch.
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Mistress_Charizard
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posted April 14, 2002 09:21 AM
33 Pokemon ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Horsea (Genesis Lv. 22)
Misty’s Horsea (Gym Lv. 10) 2
Misty’s Horsea (Gym Lv. 16)
Misty’s Seadra (Gym Lv. 30) 2
Kingdra (Promo Lv. 50)
Psyduck (Promo Lv. 15)
Misty’s Psyduck (Gym Lv. 18)
Misty’s Goldeen (Gym Lv. 10)
Seaking (Neo Revelation Lv. 29)
Sentret (Neo Discovery Lv. 18)
Furret (Genesis Lv. 27)
Staryu (Lv. 15)
Starmie (Lv. 28)
Eevee (Rocket Exp. Lv.9) 3
Umbreon (Neo Discovery Lv. 40)
Espeon (Neo Discovery Lv. 38 & Lv. 45) 2
Misty’s Poliwag (Gym Lv. 15)
Misty’s Poliwhirl (Gym Lv. 37)
Natu (Neo Discovery Lv. 13)
Xatu (Neo Discovery Lv. 38)
Magikarp (Lv. 8)
Dark Gyarados (Rocket Exp. Lv. 31)
Totodile (Genesis Lv. 20)
Croconaw (Genesis Lv.34)
Sabrina’s Drowzee (Gym Lv. 15)
Dark Hypno (Rocket Lv. 26)
Mewtwo (Promo Lv. 60)
Lugia (Neo Revelation Lv. 43)
20 Total Energy ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
12 Water
8 Psychic
7 Total Trainers ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Master Ball
Double Gust
Poke Ball
Blaine’s Quiz #2
Energy Retrieval
Pokedex
Moo-Moo Milk
![[Smile]](smile.gif) Pros: The “Annoying Payback” Deck gets its name from the Pokemon’s attacks! Many of the attacks, such as Horsea’s (Genesis Lv. 22) Fin Slap, get damage added onto the base damage, if the Active Pokemon was attacked last turn, or, as in Dark Gyarados’s case (its Pokemon Power), if your Active Pokemon gets KO’d, you may attack the Defending Pokemon for a certain amount of damage. In this way, whether you were able to prevent some or all of the damage done to your Pokemon or not, you can still damage your opponent! Sweet, huh? The “Annoying” part of this decks title is the more emphasized part! You probably know how excruciatingly annoying it is when your opponent uses a Smokescreen or a Confuse Ray or Hypnotic Stare. Well, this deck is full of those attacks, and others that have, relatively, the same effects. Most make it more difficult for your opponent to attack successfully, and others paralyze, confuse, or “sing” to your opponents! Put simply, this deck “lives for revenge, and is downright annoying!” Also, you will never run out of Pokemon - or energy – as I have come to realize over my numerous battles!
![[Frown]](frown.gif) Cons: Yes, perhaps you have already realized it as well – too many Pokemon, and not enough Trainers! I never really see the need for more Trainer cards in this deck during battles, but if you see that I need some of a certain type, PLEASE let me know! Also, I think I might have too many Evolved cards, but I’ve never really had a problem with that, either. The thing that bugs most is that I’m not sure if I have enough energy. Or too little of Trainers. What do you think?
**So, my 3 main questions are: 1. Do I need more or less energy? 2. Do I need more Trainers? 3. Would this deck pass for Modified Constructed format (the Tourney in Raleigh, NC on June 29 is what I’m after)? And, of course, if you see something that you would change or put in or whatever, make it known to me! Thanks guys (and gals)!** ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
The Mistress wishes for the wise professors to judge her re-constructed domination deck…
(yes, it dominates most players at my League!)
(hot dog…my fingers hurt.) ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
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"Let them think what they want. It's just you and me in this battle - right now, nothing else matters. This is what we both live for, and nothing and no one can possibly take our dreams away." - a good friend
"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
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posted April 14, 2002 09:48 AM
This deck would work for the modified format(except for the pokeball, energy retrieval, and pokedex)
Second: Drawing power is the key to winning games. Try and make room for trainers like elm, or the deadly Erika-Imposter Oak's Revenge combo. ![[Devilish]](graemlins/diablo.gif) Nightly Garbage Run helps you bring back some of your star pokemon if they get knocked out.
Third: A lot of common mistakes are evolution chains. In your case, Dark Hypno DOES NOT evolve from Sabrina's Drowsee, only from Drowsee. Same With Misty's Goldeen and Seaking
20 energy is perfect for this deck.
Overall suggestions:
- Lugia
- Staru
- Starmie
- Sabrina's Drowsee
- Totodile
- Croconaw
- Pokeball
- Pokedex
- Energy Retrieval
- Sentret
- Furret
- Misty's Goldeen
- Misty's Psyduck
- Misty's Poliwag
- Misty's Poliwhirl
+ Drowsee
+ 3 Professor Elm
+ 2 Nightly Garbage Run
+ 1 Cleffa
+ 3 Erika
+ 2 Imposter Oak's Revenge
+ Goldeen
+ 2 Rocket's Sneak Attack
Note: These are just my suggestions. DO NOT feel pressured to take me seriously. (No one ever does)
DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR YOUR DECK! Don't forget to test your deck. That can reveal a lot of your deck's weaknesses.
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posted April 14, 2002 03:27 PM
NOOOOOO!!!! PLEASE tell me ur joking!!!! I can't take out my Misty's Goldeen and Seaking!! Not Lugia! Not Sentret and Furret! Not Energy Retrieval and Pokedex!! ![[Mad]](mad.gif) No. I cannot take all of them out. Only if they alter my chances of competing in the Tourney. But, I do see what u mean, marxr2009. I luuuuuv combos myself, but of course, there aren't very many in this deck. And another problem is, I don't have all the cards u suggested putting in!! And I also thought that u COULD evolve Sabrina's Drowzee into a Dark Hypno! And the same for Misty's Goldeen/Seaking! ***groangroangrumblemumblegroangroan***
dern, it... say, do u know where i would have the best chance of findin all of those cards u mentioned? (aka what booster packs) ok, thanx for ur advice though! i have 2 more fab decks on the way--ones that i hope i wont have to change much!!
p.s. im taking you seriously, dude!! u got some good viewpoints! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Mistress: what? you say i have too many Togepis in my deck?....**Charizard's Flamethrower heating up the whole room, Togepi's Metronome blows whats left of the room up***....now, where were we? ( sweet!)
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"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
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posted April 14, 2002 03:31 PM
oh, i fergot to add, i have tested the first edition of this deck against other trainer's decks at League meetings (major blowouts!!!), and i tested the remake against...my own decks!! yeah...our league hasn't really started up agian...yet! but when i play myself, i never lose (with this deck, anyway! lol) and ive lost only once at the League!! ok ttyl
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"Let them think what they want. It's just you and me in this battle - right now, nothing else matters. This is what we both live for, and nothing and no one can possibly take our dreams away." - a good friend
"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
- Karen of the Elite Four
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posted April 14, 2002 04:20 PM
ô_o
I don't think it was made quite clear... This deck needs help badly.
First off, before I fix anything, never use the argument "this ownz my league/tournament/friends!". That means nothing. ![[Bored]](graemlins/dozey.gif) We're gonna judge you on the overall quality of the deck, not how it does against friends and such. (At least not until it gets better)
First off, as said, you have FAR to many Pokemon. There is no organization. Let's narrow down each individual problem.
-Singles
You have far to many singles. Sure you got some strong Pokemon, and some legendaries, but that means nothing in the TCG. you have no organization or strategy. Any experienced player with a sound deck will beat this quite badly. Chances are, you don't want to hear that, but it's true. Your chances of getting out the right Pokemon when you need them are very slim.
-Pokemon
The pokemon themselves...  Yeah, well, you've got some pretty poor choices as is. It's hard to begin where you've gone wrong. First off, you've made a common mistake among evolutions. (already said, I'll explain more in depth) You cannot evolve a "Misty's Goldeen" into a "Seaking" for example. You're notice that the card "Seaking" states that it evolves from "Goldeen", not "Misty's Goldeen". Same thing for Dark Hypno and Sabrina's Drowzee. Dark Hypno evolves from "Drowzee" not "Sabrina's Drowzee" Again, you have no strategy, the cards may appear to go together well because they have similiar attacks, but in reality, they don't.
-Trainers
Simply put, you have far to few trainers. Speed is key in winning. If you're to slow, you WILL get eaten alive. Again, you're counting on sheer luck to get out what you need at the right time. As for the single Masterball and Single Pokeball, they're not gonna do a thing. Once you've wasted those on getting out an evolution, or what you need, chances are, that Pokemon won't last long anyway. The deck is simply to slow.
The overall problem is that you're counting on luck to win the game for you. What most likely has been beating your friends is either type advantage, luck of the draw, or the fact that you simply overwhelm them. (Can I assume their decks have a serious lack of trainers also) Only problem, you WON'T overwhelm any deck with speed. It simply won't happen. They'll have a Blaine's Arcanine with 5 Fire energy on turn two beating you down into the ground while you're hoping to get the card drawing you need to get the Pokemon you need. Yes, tournament worthy decks are that fast. And you need to focus on a singl strategy, again, the deck appears to have a drawback strategy, but it doesn't. You've got bits of everything. That won't work. I'll assume you don't have to many cards, so I'll try to keep this cheap and easy. 
Pokemon - 15
4 Misty's Horsea (doesn't matter which)
3 Misty's Seadra
3 Cleffa (Neo Genesis) (SPEED)
2 Pichu
3 Lapras (Southern Islands)
Trainers - 30
3 Proffesor Elm (Speed)
4 Erika (Speed)
3 Master Ball (speed)
3 Gold Berry
3 Focus Band
3 Healing Fields
3 Cerulean City Gym
3 Imposter Oak's Revenge
2 Nightly Garbage Run
3 Secret Mission
Energy - 15
15 Water Energy
This deck has some actual organization. Speed, strategy, etc. You know what you want to get out, you have the means to get it out quickly, and you even have backup in the form of lapras. Granted it's not as great as it could be, but again, I tried to keep it rather cheap. This should do nicely at the tournament, if as you said, most people could be beaten by your previous deck.
If you have any questions/comments/accusations/death threats/anger you would like to share with me over this fix, feel free to contact me over AIM via the screen name "MasterHunterZero"
[ April 15, 2002, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: Maverick Hunter Zero ]
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posted April 15, 2002 04:35 PM
All right, Maverick, you made your point at the beginning of your post! But my deck IS NOT as bad as you might think. I didn't mean to be proud when "I said it ownz my League." I DID NOT say that. It was true though, I did beat most trainers i was up against--but it was NOT because of luck. Just remember that. I know my deck is far from perfect. But it is NOT as in bad of shape as you make it out to be! No, I am not upset over what you said about what I needed to change. The thing about the evolutions slipped my mind, as I never had a problem with too many Pkmn or too few trainers when i battled. But I don't need sarcasm when it comes to "rating" my deck! All right? You do have a lot of good viewpoints, and I know you're right about some things. But it just goes to show--you have been up against this deck yet. It is NOT a "lucky deck." It does NOT own my League. Just keep it straight, awright? Thanx for the advice, good buddy. ...and by the way, don't ever roll your eyes at me again, or make others think I'm ignorant with those smilies. Thank you. Sorry if i've been blunt.
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"Let them think what they want. It's just you and me in this battle - right now, nothing else matters. This is what we both live for, and nothing and no one can possibly take our dreams away." - a good friend
"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
- Karen of the Elite Four
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posted April 15, 2002 04:51 PM
Keep it calm and cool here... no one means any harm... MHZ is a pretty cool guy.
Just that most of us LOOK for & are partial to TRAINER heavy tourney decks... that is all.
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SHUT UP & DO something about it
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Maverick Hunter Zero
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posted April 15, 2002 05:30 PM
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I didn't mean to be proud when "I said it ownz my League." I DID NOT say that. It was true though, I did beat most trainers i was up against
pardon my miswording here. After that I should have put something along the lines of "Or any arguement similiar in any way" Chances are, telling everyone a deck beats people at your league usually doesn't mean much.
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It is NOT a "lucky deck."
I'll prolly get a good thrashing from one of the mods for this, but yes, it is. You have singles of EVERYTHING other than energy. You depend purely on luck. There is simply no strategy. Suppose you DO get something Powered. It'll obviously take quite a while. (Unless you get some of that luck) You're assuming the opponent is powering up at the same rate as you. Real high quality decks are simply so much faster. Your basics are dead before you have the chance to get evolutions out.
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and by the way, don't ever roll your eyes at me again, or make others think I'm ignorant with those smilies. Thank you.
ô_o um... yeah. would you have prefered I filled my post with various " ![[Dubious]](graemlins/dubious.gif) " icons? You know, the ones the convey absolute disbelief and total horror. I simply picked the ones I did because I felt they were less insulting. They weren't chosen with a condescending look in mind.
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posted April 15, 2002 06:21 PM
Mistress Charizard, I think your deck will do well if you don't put in too many single cards and go on 1-2 evolution lines.
If you follow MHZ, your deck will be stable and balanced and that could make your deck win most of the time.
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Scyther is fast, but not as fast as Scizor.
Scyther is strong, but not as strong as Scizor.
Scyther has a few attacks, but Scizor has more attacks.
Scyther is a Grass Pokemon, Scizor is not(HAHAHA!!!)
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posted April 16, 2002 01:09 PM
OK, first of all, I want to apologize to MHZ--I really didn't mean to be so...harsh, I guess is the word; I know ur right about alot of ur comments. But I also want you to realize, a few of them were not necessary ![[NoNoNo]](graemlins/nonono.gif) . Since I designed these decks, I know what's in them, I know what I need (in battles anyway),and I know what I'm going after. I realize(d) I had too many different lines, but that was the way it had always worked for me, and that was the way I wanted it! But, overall, I'm sorry, MHZ, and I'll try not to let it happen ever again, IPGeek21! ( man, that makes me feel like a kid! well, that last part anyway! lol)
Hey MHZ!!! Tell me what exactly you meant by "too slow of a deck"? Did you mean too slow to power up, or too slow to evolve, or what?? Just to get it straight! THX
All right, problem #3: I do NOT have any Nightly Garbage Run, or that many Erika or Prof. Elm. If u know of anyone who might like to trade or can get me some of these cards, PLEASE let me know ASAP!!!!! Thanx (ya, I'm in a $$$ crunch too...)
And, #4: I'm looking for strong cards (HP wise and attack wise). At least...any one have any specific recommendations?? Lemme have 'em, and I'll see what I can do about those!
Otay, I think i'm all done. And, IPGeek, don't thrash MHZ for those remarks--I'm VERY SURE he didn't mean them! ![[Evil Smirk]](graemlins/Up_to.gif) ...I can take care of that for ya!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! j/k ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
Mistress: As hard-headed and stubborn as I may be, I will never fail to make up for an evil remark orcomeback against another trainer! ...as long as they don't beat me in a match...
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"Let them think what they want. It's just you and me in this battle - right now, nothing else matters. This is what we both live for, and nothing and no one can possibly take our dreams away." - a good friend
"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
- Karen of the Elite Four
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posted April 16, 2002 03:50 PM
Yeah um, go with MHZ.
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Maverick Hunter Zero
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posted April 16, 2002 03:57 PM
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All right, problem #3: I do NOT have any Nightly Garbage Run, or that many Erika or Prof. Elm. If u know of anyone who might like to trade or can get me some of these cards, PLEASE let me know ASAP!!!!! Thanx (ya, I'm in a $$$ crunch too...)
Thats pretty much what I figured. Thats what the comment "so I'll try to keep this cheap and easy." meant. It wasn't to belittle you, it was that it was rather obvious that you didn't have copies of nearly everything. Again, contact me over AIM, I'll be happy to trade you all you need, considering I have dozens of copies of everything in that deck.
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Hey MHZ!!! Tell me what exactly you meant by "too slow of a deck"? Did you mean too slow to power up, or too slow to evolve, or what?? Just to get it straight! THX
Fair question, and simple to answer. You'll notice my deck has just (what could be considered) ludicrous amounts of card drawing. I have a FAR higher chance of having a fully powered Pokemon, with plenty of healing and a stadium out, along with other pokemon ready, out and ready before your current deck. It's easy to get out Misty's Seadra quickly, and keep it alive with various Gold Berry, Focus Band, Healing fields, etc. And even then, you can start building up MORE Seadra. (Although never expect it to go that smoothly every time you play, that's underestimating the opponent) Not to mention, you have Lapras for MORE healing (and backup) and Pichu to take swift care of anything with a Pokemon Power. (Die Unown, DIE!) Cleffa is there simply because it's just mad drawing.
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And, #4: I'm looking for strong cards (HP wise and attack wise). At least...any one have any specific recommendations?? Lemme have 'em, and I'll see what I can do about those!
Yipes. Unfortunately, most cards that do impressive amounts of damage are rare holos. (Especiall when it comes to water) But you may want to try Neo Revelation MAgcargo. If memory serves, it's an uncommon, and allows you to choose how much damage you do depending on how many cards you discard for it's attack. (VERY impressive card) You may want to consider trying it.
[ April 16, 2002, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: Maverick Hunter Zero ]
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posted April 16, 2002 07:08 PM
If you're going for the counter-theme, add (If you have them) Rocket's Hitmonchan. For 1 F energy, it can do twice the amount as it took, even if it is KO'd. Yes, it takes F energy, but it is soooo cool!
In a water deck, Dark Wartortle can be persistant because of mirror shell.you might like that.
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Mistress_Charizard
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posted April 21, 2002 03:29 PM
hey MHZ, remind me again what AIM meant. hot flashes. brain lapse. school. u name it, i got it.
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"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
- Karen of the Elite Four
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posted April 21, 2002 03:39 PM
*passes out*
![[ROFL]](graemlins/roflmao.gif)
Maverick Hunter Zero's deck should work
altho i say 2 Sabrinas gaze and 1 more garbage run over erika...
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Confound them with bull****"
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Maverick Hunter Zero
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posted April 21, 2002 07:40 PM
*erhem* AIM is a popular chat program, which stands for AOL instant messanger. This program is free, and you do not need AOL to use it. It can be downloaded here.
[EDIT] Just noticed something about Wergoheb's post. If that would be done, you would have 1 Erika left (Making is useless) and would make some of the other cards useless. The only reason I have IOR in there (Imposter Oak's Revenge) is that after a few uses of Erika, your opponent will have quite a few cards also. That IOR will shoot them back down to 4. Not to mention, a deck with heavy card drawing will deck quickly, so getting cards into your discard pile that can be put back into your deck is a good thing. (You might even consider dropping a Gold Berry/Focus Band for another Night Garbage Run) But otherwise, I'm not sure I see how what he did would help all that much. Doesn't quite fit. (But this is of course my opinion) Not trying to make you look bad Wergoheb, simply stating my opinion on your own suggestions...
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Mistress_Charizard
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posted April 23, 2002 01:16 PM
Hey, I don't use AOL. I have Yahoo Messenger.
So there.
awright, if you want my id, email me for it. Im not just gonna give it out on the boards.
Thanx.
P.S.--MHZ is right, Werwhateveritwas. 's ok though. we ALL pull boneheads sometimes. j/k
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"Strong Pokemon.
Weak Pokemon.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
You, I like your style; you realize what's important. ...Now go on, the Champion is waiting."
- Karen of the Elite Four
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Maverick Hunter Zero
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posted April 23, 2002 03:52 PM
Actually, Wergoheb's suggestion was rather interesting. He just took out the wrong cards. Something tells me that Sabrina's Gaze might in fact work nicely, in conjunction with all those Erika. (In the offchance you don't get much great, that card would work wonderfully) But I can see it having uses in certain situations. (Again, certain situations, I'm not all to sure about fitting the deck itself nicely)
Another though I had was about the backup Pokemon. In the deck I suggested, I advised Lapras. This may not be all to terribly wise. A little firepower might come in handy, considering that while Misty's Seadra is good, it's not to terribly stable. You may even consider the holo version of the Neo Revelation Suicune. (We all know what trouble that's caused eh?) In fact, you might even consider Gligar. I know what you're think, it doesn't appear to fit. But it's great against those electric Pokemon that are such a threat. Free retreat is excellent, 60 HP is good, and splashes nicely with that colorless energy. It's all up to you, but you may consider that an option.
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