Author Topic: The Hive Tyranitar666 Member Member # 22902 posted April 11, 2002 04:58 PM             Heres a great MF deck ive been working on with the rest of the NEW Team Neo... 4 weedle 4 kakuna 4 beedrill 2 cleffa 2 pichu 8 grass 4 elm 3 wrath 4 erika 3 energy stadium 4 focus band 3 pokemon center 4 double gust 3 ior 3 rsa 3 ngr 2 chaos gym Nothing like a swarming nest of bees attacking someone... now onto the deck. It has mad trainer denial, and can lay down a chaos gym to complete the lock. All free retreat means Center is insane. between mad poisoning and focus bands you can fight fire, and pichu gives u an edge. Energy stadium helps the low energy count... check it for yourself. Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged Dark Ho-oh Member Member # 65055 posted April 11, 2002 05:24 PM            looks cool. here's my 2 cents ADD: 2 Grass REMOVE: 1 Beedrill(3 is plenty) 1 Erika(You'll deck before anything) -------------------- Dark Ho-oh Founder of Team T dot. P.E.P:Proud Espeon Player NEXT TORONTO QT WINNER(hopefully.LoL) MSN:[email protected] "Beleive in the heart of the cards and they will come through for you"-Yugi Moto From: Toronto, Ontario | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged Dark Psyduck Member Member # 41067 posted April 11, 2002 06:02 PM             ...not too sure what to think right now... But to the deck, I would drop 2 Energy Stadium, add in a Rocket's Training Gym, and a Chaos Gym. Rocket's Training Gym will somewhat prevent them from retreating, and Chaos will seal the lock after an IOR/RSA. Plus, I love tech-stadiums in decks. -------------------- FIRST LC PACK: REVERSE FOIL PSYDUCK ~First Banned Member of the Pokemon Ruins~ ~Team Dead Sneasel~ 4 Trips to Worlds and counting! ~Champion 11-14 Central Stadium Challenge (Toxicity)~ I'll be gladly accepting Psyduck cards, signed or not, at Origins and Worlds. From: Ohio - about 40 minutes from York | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Track_Runner Member Member # 72196 posted April 11, 2002 06:07 PM            is this deck serious ? cause it doesn't look to good if it is ... (NO offence) 8 energy ??? what beedrill are you playing ??? -------------------- Top 8 at the chicago championship =\ 1st at kokomo SBZ IM me at ZackH111 for a game of Apprentice . From: terre haute Indiana | Registered: Mar 2002  |  IP: Logged TrumpBunny Member # 21314 posted April 11, 2002 07:42 PM             OMG, You posted it... Looks good anyways, kinnda like the version we made in the chat. No ideas now, Babies mess the deck up bad though, we get a 25% chance of KOing a babys and leaving at open to attack =/ Anyways ttyl on AIM ~TrumpBunny -------------------- Cheers Poke-Neo.com The Proud, The Few, The "1337" -AIM-TrumpI3unny [email protected] From: N. E. O. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged Tyranitar666 Member Member # 22902 posted April 12, 2002 08:49 AM             yes...babies= bad. thats why i run 4 double gust. Leave it to where u only need to fight off the babies when thats all they have. As for the insane card advantage, thats the point. Its NEO 3 beedrill btw. 1 grass energy- 10 damage. flip a coin. if heads poison and they take 30 damage instead of 10 for poison. hes got a 3 energy comet punch attack as well, but its tough to get the energy on him as this is a swarm deck. and six...dont bother replying to my posts. ill ask u nicely to stop or i will have to see if i can talk to the mods about it... Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged Johnny Blaze Member # 234 posted April 12, 2002 11:37 AM             T-Tar you having problem with babies heh-heh? Weedle's attack + a Dark and a flip of heads kills babies it's also great for FTK against Totodiles. I would take out a Stadium and an Erika and tech 2 Dark for those instances. Nice deck btw. -------------------- Johnny Blaze at the 2000 ECSTS MTM vs. Johnny Blaze at the MBI2 From: Clifton Park, N.Y. | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged rigamortistortoise Member Member # 66482 posted April 12, 2002 12:06 PM             -1 ngr -1 energy stadium -4 erika +2 murkrow +4 dark that will take care of your baby problem and mean look is cool with a poison deck good louck!!!! -------------------- AIM me @six6wectb York member Proud to be ROGUE!!! From: outside of the box........ | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged JediDrew730 Member Member # 16294 posted April 12, 2002 04:11 PM            Ill keep my opinion about this team neo stuff to myself for now. i would maybe add a rocket scyther or two but that might slow you down.It would help against babies though. For now I would go -1 beedrill(4 is overkill especially with all your ngr) -1 energy stadium +1 chaos(I like the chaos count above my counter gym count because your opponent has gyms too) +1 Sneak(more disruption) -1 erika(you have tons of draw) +1 grass I hope I helped some -------------------- 1st place finisher at 2001 Cleveland Qt 2nd place finisher at 2002 New Jersey Stadium Challenge 10th place at 2002 Worlds It Takes Two Hands To Handle A Whopper AIM: DOtheDREW730 From: Parma, Ohio, USA | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged judoalex13 Member Member # 10355 posted April 12, 2002 04:31 PM             Why not making room for recycle energues. They you can attach em to babies and you it can help beedrill's second attack. -------------------- Los Angeles Qt's. 2001. Day 2 -3rd Place WCSTS 2001. Day 1- 14th Place WCSTS 2001. Day 2- 22nd Place Feraligator - $8 Dark Gengar - $6 Teching your deck - Priceless -TecHdaDeck Got Apprentice? Im always looking for battles. Instant Message me at Judoalex13 PokéDome Forum From: SoCal!! | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged Tyranitar666 Member Member # 22902 posted April 12, 2002 06:49 PM             yeah drew... its best to stay out of it for now. lol. you are one of the few that id like to talk to on the issue over IM though... as for the rcokets scyther... too slow with 8 energy... as for recycle... u dont use his second attack. its all swarm. get 3-4 beedrill going and pick at them and than center and repeat. so the 4th beedrill is needed. as for the murkrow...interesting BUT the erika are needed sooooo badly. i like having elm wrath AND erika in almost all MF decks... 4 elm 4 wrath is wayyyyy too slow IMO. card advantage in MF has evolved...as has disruption... Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged Lumien Member Member # 70594 posted April 13, 2002 08:12 AM             Which weedle / kakuna did you decide to go with? -------------------- If I die, I shall encouter darkness as my bride, and hold her in my arms. W.S. From: Florida | Registered: Mar 2002  |  IP: Logged Strike Member # 201 posted April 13, 2002 08:25 AM             Hey, another true gatr killer thingy. Let's just hope you can get heads pretty easy and ko diles in 1 turn =D. What you should really do with this deck is add in another ior by removing a pokemon center, and removing 1 beedrill for either another energy or another tech pokemon, you can choose which pokemon would fit best. Oh yeah, BTW I was testing a similar deck like this( a little slower but with more energy and pokemon) before. -------------------- 3rd place WCSTS 2001 Day 1 15+ 1st place WCSC Professor Draft! 8th place Wizards/Professor Challenge at Worlds! SBZ Senior Champion- Mission Valley, Ca, Feb 15th, 2003 SBZ Champion- Mission Valley,CA May 24th, 2003 The Terror of San Diego! In a world of all the same decks, only the teched versions will win. Now a professor as well From: San Diego, Ca, Usa | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged invisible Member Member # 73074 posted April 13, 2002 09:48 PM            well, my opinion would be to drop a beedrill and a 2 kakuna, drop 1 energy stadium and drop an erika, giving 5 free slots. that would be 3 energy and 2 breeders. just a suggestion. -------------------- the darker the surrounding, the clearer a light seems Registered: Mar 2002  |  IP: Logged Aipom The Monkey Member Member # 76058 posted April 13, 2002 10:22 PM             Do what invisible suggested, but add all five slots with energy ( or Double Colorless) Aipom -------------------- Aipom is a Monkey Pokémon. It swings from tree to tree. It is cute, but if threatened it will not hesitate to use its Hyper Beam to annihilate the threat. Aipom works well with its cousin, Mankey. They battle side by side in most confrontations. An Ingenious Primate On Me! Help! Help! Registered: Apr 2002  |  IP: Logged Mega Murkrow Member # 469 posted April 13, 2002 10:57 PM            Yea, lemme tell ya, those promo breeders and DCEs are a god send! XD Hey T-tar, snazzy deck as always. Since you are already playing this deck in swarm fashion, have you thought about using the promo scyther from league? It's great for those games against gatr when you go second and they get a croco out quick-like. Plus the whole "can't use this attack next turn thing" doesn't matter much when you're constantly retreating anyways. I suppose you could drop a beedrill and... uh... that other thing... over there... for 2 scyther. It seems like it fits the bill with quick, cheap beats that add up quickly. Plus it's weak to fire so it fits your theme! ~_^ -------------------- *Ahem* Professor Mega Murkrow ~_^ My mom says I'm the handsomest guy in school! Proud bronze medalist of the ECSTS2001 ^_^ AIM: Mega Murkrow From: St. Louis | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged Tyranitar666 Member Member # 22902 posted April 14, 2002 02:29 PM             yeah....first off, due to energy stadium the low energy is fine, namely with the insane card advantage. Invisible, its a MF deck and can only use rocket on cards. Of course its swarm. swarm rules. hehe. Mega Krow...mind supplying the translaion for thats cyther? Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged robbie Member Member # 53390 posted April 14, 2002 02:36 PM            let me guess how many times the mulligan ruile happens (no basics, opponent draws 2) alot! add some more pokemon, or at least this line erika's bellsprout erika's weepinbell erika's victreebell you'll find this alot more fun to play with. besides that, everything looks fine, just add MORE energy, atleast 14! -robbie -------------------- i like yoda! i like squirtle and family! From: price's gym, mahogany town (wesminster colorado!) | Registered: Dec 2001  |  IP: Logged Dark Psyduck Member Member # 41067 posted April 14, 2002 03:01 PM             Chris, don't think EVERYONE on the boards is a beginner. =/ They just can't all understand the swarm type deck idea. I don't really like this deck though...bad flips will really screw you. Also Crobat will kill you...badly. I'd still suggest my above fix. From: Ohio - about 40 minutes from York | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Mega Murkrow Member # 469 posted April 14, 2002 05:48 PM            Ack, my bad. Here's the stats for promo scyther: 60 HP C Retreat GG [Some attack name =P] Scyther cannot use this attack next turn. 40 Yup, he's a beast. Like I said, since the deck plays on attack, retreat, attack, retreat, the effect with the attack doesn't matter much. So get those scythers and start croco-whompin! -------------------- *Ahem* Professor Mega Murkrow ~_^ My mom says I'm the handsomest guy in school! Proud bronze medalist of the ECSTS2001 ^_^ AIM: Mega Murkrow From: St. Louis | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged Tyranitar666 Member Member # 22902 posted April 14, 2002 06:09 PM             dark psyduck- i dont think everyone on the boards is n00b. *why?* i was referring to the topic of adding breeders and such. Obviously if they knew it was MF they wouldnt have suggested that. I was trying to be nice about it. As for saying its swarm, there are alot of less experienced players and I have been getting numerous replies to add other pokes, so I figured I would state as such. Im sorry if you dont seem to understand this. *uh? don't you guys like back each other up normally? pardon me if I am mistaken* BTW, do you know why kids put beans in their ears? Robbie- well, victreebel is a great pokemon, it takes up while too much space. Plus, the deck doesnt have the energy to use it well, and it disrupts my double gusting and my swarming. also, with the low energy count, all of my pokemon only need one energy to attack with. PLUS, i have 4 erika and 4 elm and 4 wrath that can get me more cards, so the low ratio of energy is easy to overcome using the expanded card advantage. PLUS i have NGR to add 3 back into the deck if needed, and I have energy stadium which each turn on a flip i get to retrieve one energy. mega murkrow- wow that scyther is a beast. Unfortunately it doesnt seem liek the best choice for this deck due to the low energy count. I can afford to retreat like needed to abuse the card. I can find a certain meganium deck that may abuse such a card though... [ April 14, 2002, 10:18 PM: Message edited by: IPGeek21 ] Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged Dark Psyduck Member Member # 41067 posted April 14, 2002 06:21 PM             Well Chris, step 1. Don't ask people to stay away from your posts. Just ain't gonna happen. And I was referring to your CONSTANT replies about 'Wizpog n00bs', and people did not understand the Swarm concept. From: Ohio - about 40 minutes from York | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Tyranitar666 Member Member # 22902 posted April 14, 2002 06:45 PM             dark psyduck- *sticks and stones...*. i referreneced " wizpog no00bs" where? I onkly know of my only refferrence of n00b being *oooh I was going to insert a word here, nah better not*. as for staying off the topic i can very well bring it up with the mods or administraters and I can see if theres anything we can do about that. I REALLY am having a TOUGH time following the LOGIC as to HOW he is Teed you off? We BOTH know how DPsyduck can be and THIS is no where near THAT. YEAH, i guess you could contact me... true... [ April 14, 2002, 10:20 PM: Message edited by: IPGeek21 ] Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged Dark Psyduck Member Member # 41067 posted April 14, 2002 06:54 PM             Hm...Bomie did the exact same thing. The mods locked the topic. If you want your topic locked...go ahead, keep posting smart*ypants* remarks. *c'mon you've kept a COOL head so far... NO NEED to type that* [ April 14, 2002, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: IPGeek21 ] From: Ohio - about 40 minutes from York | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged Amber Brkich Member Member # 14089 posted April 14, 2002 06:56 PM             Yay Beedrill my fourth favourite mf deck Yes let's pwn stuff . I could see Crobat doing some damage to this deck since it's free retreat and all and babies do cause some problems since two heads [well for me anywayz] in a row is liak all rare liak. I really dunno what to do......If it were really up to me I would change the gym but 8 energy is really low to do such a change. I'm gonna make a change though since I can't think of anything else =/ -1 Erika [I rarely Erika when I have a wrath but thats cause i liak decking ] +1 Pichu A third pichu can help with fugly typhlosion and since poison can turn off power u can liak majorly pwn it. I really don't know what to change. It looks good the way it is........ EDIT: Me cant spell =/ [ April 14, 2002, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: Amber Brkich ] -------------------- If your in the area AIM me ;P AIM-HeadlessChicoo T-D0t R0x0rz!!! ESPEON > All *why is there no espeon avatar ;_;* Deranged Hermit/Nut Collector and Chatter of the squirrel pwn spirit monger :P From: T-Dot, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged

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