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The Dark Llama
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posted January 10, 2003 11:51 PM      Profile for The Dark Llama   Email The Dark Llama    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I have no real example for this, but here goes:
If a Pokemon has two attacks, one that does something and the other that needs the first to work correctly, (like Hypnosis & Dream Eater)
If the first attack needs to flip coins to do damage (like, "if tails, this attack does nothing") would the second attack count just USING the first one, regardless of whether it worked or not?

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posted January 11, 2003 06:18 AM      Profile for MrGrass   Email MrGrass    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Well, there's no real precedent for this as of yet. It's hard to make rulings without any real examples. The closest example I can think of is Night Eyes/Perish Song against a Snorlax. Say you use Night Eyes on Snorlax, who can't fall asleep. Then the next turn you use Goop Gas Attack to turn off powers, then use Sleep on the Snorlax. You could use Perish Song on Snorlax since it's asleep now and was attacked with Night Eyes last turn, even though Night Eyes had no real effect.
I don't know of any pokemon like the one you're describing, unless it's something like Brock's Dugtrio vs. a baby. If you flip tails while trying to use Lie Low, you'll have to try again next turn because you never actually used the Lie Low attack, which you need to use before doing Earthdrill.

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yoshi1001

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posted January 11, 2003 06:56 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I believe it was ruled that a Smeargle could not sketch an attack that failed on the baby rule as the attack was not used. In that case, the attack itself was prevented. In the Snorlax case, the effect of the the attack was prevented, and therefore the attack was used. I believe that is the distinction.

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[ January 11, 2003, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: yoshi1001 ]

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